10+1 round cap in Canada

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I'm from Los Anglees. Here we're limited to 10 in the mag and 1 in the pipe. I heard it's the same in most of Canada (Quebec the cap is 7 rounds?). Is this true? I thought only Californians had it this bad. :)
 
We are restricted in many ways on the capacity of our magazines - most of them making no real sense.

Pistol magazines are limited to 10 rounds.
Rifle magazines are limited to 5 rounds, unless they are .22 cal and then they are unlimited capacity. If it is a bolt action rifle, then the capacity is also unlimited.
Shotguns are limited to 5 rounds if they are semi's, but unlimited for pump action.
These restrictions are Canada wide, so no different in Quebec or any other province.

Clear as mud, right? ;)

The capacities are based on what the magazine is DESIGNED for, not necessarily used. This means that if a magazine designed for a pistol will fit in a rifle (such as the LAR-15 pistol mags, or XCR pistol mags), then even though they hold 10 rounds they are legal. If it is designed for a rifle, but can fit in a pistol then it is still limited to 5 rounds (such as mags for the Beretta CX storm).
We can still use full capacity magazines, they just need to be pinned or modified so as to not accept more than the legal limit or rounds for their designed platform.

The may be some other restrictions for hunting purposes (I'm pretty sure you can't have more than 3 rounds in your shotgun or 5 in your rifle at a time while actually hunting), but I'm not entirely certain of the specifics on these rules as I don't hunt anything other that paper, clays and steel plates :D

The short answer is we feel your pain, and welcome to the forum.

lonedrone
 
Makes as much sense as it does here in Commifornia. What's funny is neighboring states have no restriction on rounds, ownership of suppressors, AR...CC (concealed carry), OC (open carry)...etc.

One of thee days...I just might move to Arizona. Or New Mexico. Texas. :) Hell some states allow you to build your own firing ranges in your backyard (e.g. TN).

Thanks for the welcome. Nice to hear Californians are not alone in the "10+1 mag" rule.

AWOL,

14 rounds in your mags? Where are you from? Your range officers okay this?
 
BDD said:
14 rounds in your mags? Where are you from? Your range officers okay this?
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Has nothing to do with range officers. It is how the law is written. Pistol magazines are limited to ten rounds for the calibre of which they were designed. So if a Glock 40 S&W mag holds 14 rounds of 9mm, it is still legal as it is only limited to ten rounds of 40 S&W.
 
BDD said:
AWOL,

14 rounds in your mags? Where are you from? Your range officers okay this?
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My range used to have a 5 round rule but they canned it in favour of legal limits. We don't have range officers at my club. The first one in the range is the RO.
 
AWOL said:
My range used to have a 5 round rule but they canned it in favour of legal limits. We don't have range officers at my club. The first one in the range is the RO.
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So why bother going to the trouble of using 40 cal mags in your 9mm pistols? Why not just use full capacity mags? In case you DO get a boy scout playing the role of the RO?

Another question...we're actually allowed to own and shoot with JHP? Are they banned in Canada or allowed?

10+1 rule makes no sense. How hard is would it be for any of us to just keep swapping in 10 round mags? :) Oh well...not much we can do...though as I said I could one day move to a more fun-friendly state. And there are many.

Polar Man,

AZ is very lenient. TN. Georgia. TX.

Almost every state allows for "concealed carry" and "open carry". Suppressors. Basically "the south".

As far as I know only CA has the 10+1 rule and is hard to get a CC permit. Almost impossible. Every other state...easy.

Though, certain states (likely Illinios and NY) do not allow you to own suppressors. Not 100% on that.
 
BDD said:
So why bother going to the trouble of using 40 cal mags in your 9mm pistols? Why not just use full capacity mags?
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We have a restriction such that a mag must be designed to hold no more than 10 rounds of the caliber it was designed for. I use legal .40 cal mags designed to hold 10 round. I just happen to squeeze 14 rounds of 9mm into them. It works out ok because everybody knows it takes 14 rounds of 9mm to take on a guy who has 10 rounds of .40 cal...

:p:eek::cool:
 
lonedrone said:
We are restricted in many ways on the capacity of our magazines - most of them making no real sense.

Pistol magazines are limited to 10 rounds.
Rifle magazines are limited to 5 rounds, unless they are .22 cal and then they are unlimited capacity. If it is a bolt action rifle, then the capacity is also unlimited.
Shotguns are limited to 5 rounds if they are semi's, but unlimited for pump action.
These restrictions are Canada wide, so no different in Quebec or any other province.

Clear as mud, right? ;)
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Not quite clear (as mud...)
Centrefire semi auto rifle is 5 round, but your wording is a bit unclear.
You say .22 cal but dont specify rimfire.
.17 rimfire would be exempt as well
You mention bolt action as being exempt, but dont mention any other action types.
 
Leviathan024 said:
JHP & +P are legal and for sale in many stores. There is a common myth that they are illegal but that is not the case
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Your gun/ammo laws make as much sense as ours (in CA). :)

Most other states allow Glock owners to own 30 round mags...not California! :p Limiting us (10+1) serves no purpose. A magazine change takes how long?

Another question...are you limited to how many pistols you can buy each month or at one time?
 
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Glad to have you on the board.

On the upside to Canadian gun laws, we get super short shotguns that take a Class 3 license to acquire stateside. Odd, yes, but our laws say a barrel cannot be cut shorter than 18.5" (or 26" overall length), but if it was manufactured with a short barrel (and still 26" overall), that's ok.

As for your one mag rule, please don't give anyone ideas. We know this site is monitored.
 
Another variance is the M1 Garand being allowed it's 8 rd enbloc.
It is the only semi allowed more than 5 because there is no way to limit it to 5.
 
There is no limit to the number of pistols you can buy at a time. However, handguns are classified as "Restricted" and you need a Restricted Possession and Acquisition License (RPAL) to get it. Also, it may only be fired at a range.
 
The same as in LA. With the exception of your RPAL permit. I heard Canada is super strict with firearms which is why i asked. I think our government (California) has been drinking your Koolaid. That's what we get for electing ex-action stars. :) Have a good week guys!
 
BDD said:
Another question...are you limited to how many pistols you can buy each month or at one time?
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Officially: No limit. Practically: Discretion is advised. One of the sponsors here had Colt Woodsman clones at a special price of 3 for $450. One of my pals bought that package along with a 100th aniversary Colt 1911. When the office of the CFO (Chief Firearms Officer) processed his ATT (Authorization to Transport) paperwork, they phoned him up and gave him the fifth degree. A few weeks later: *ring ring* "Guess what. We're showing up at your place on monday to inspect your collection".

The CFO showed up at my friend's house escorted by two uniformed officers (who had stopped at a nearby gas station to suit up in Kevlar), 2 uniformed officers at the intersection to the highway, and 2 more officers hiding around the corner in an unmarked Camaro.

They inspected his collection with great scrutiny and interrogated him at length.

I don't know what exactly they were expecting, but the gas station attendant later reported to us that he overheard the inspecting party 'debriefing' at the gas station, one saying to another "We made a mistake".

See that kinda stuff in Cali?
 
AWOL said:
We have a restriction such that a mag must be designed to hold no more than 10 rounds of the caliber it was designed for. I use legal .40 cal mags designed to hold 10 round. I just happen to squeeze 14 rounds of 9mm into them. It works out ok because everybody knows it takes 14 rounds of 9mm to take on a guy who has 10 rounds of .40 cal...

:p:eek::cool:
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Wait... so i have a glock 17, will a glock 22 mag fit in a glock 17 and use the 9 mm rounds in them?
 
northern_iight said:
Wait... so i have a glock 17, will a glock 22 mag fit in a glock 17 and use the 9 mm rounds in them?
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If the Glock 22 mag is essentially, the same as the Glock 17 mag, then yes...

**Edit - I did a quick search and the internetz consensus is that it fits and you can load 9mm rounds but they may fall out. I certainly don't have any issues with my P226 or the 92FS.
 
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