10/22 accuracy

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Mornin all,
Am heading out in an hour or so for the first shots through a new-to-me 10/22. What kind of accuracy can I expect as a baseline? I've heard of ragged hole groups at 50m, clover leaf, and @ 1". I'm gonna try my varmint scope(3-12) as well as a red-dot, may also try the irons.
Cheers!!
 
The only time I hear of ragged hole groups at 50yards through a 10/22 is when the seller is boasting to sell the rifle because he/she is disappointed with it or if it has an aftermarket bull barrel. I shot a target 10/22 and it didn't do that either. This is just my experience but others may chime in.
 
Exact same as my remington 597
1" at 25 yards, 2" at 50 yards and 4" at 100yards, that is completely stock using regular ammo. I'm sure some may be more, others less, also depending on the person, but on average that's what they spit out. Used a basic and cheap 3-9x32 scope, anything will work for rimfire.
 
My 10/22 started out as an older walnut stocked carbine with the barrel band. I found the factory barrel to be capable of only mediocre accuracy: around 2"-2.5" groups at 50 yards. I would not have very high expectations for the factory barrel.

It now wears a Green Mouintain 18" x .920" barrel. It mostly gets groups with all shots touching a dime at the same distance with HV ammo it likes. Target grade standard velocity ammo improves somewhat on this; most groups fall into about a 5/8" average, and sub 1/2" ones are common.
 
If you can get that kinda accuracy out of your 10/22 then you're a better shooter than I,or perhaps it was just my particular gun. It was a stock model with the barrel band. I traded mine away because I didn't want to put in the money to make it an accurate gun. At 100 yards I could expect "minute of 8.5x11 sheet of paper". It would be all over that sheet. At 50 yards it would be from 2 to 4 inches of spread. That just wasn't good enough for me, so I traded it to someone who wanted a project gun. I got a much cheaper but more accurate savage bolt action in exchange. I'd rather have one accurate shot than 10 shots that may be close. Like I said earlier, it may have just been that one gun. I know my wife's gun shoots a bit better than mine did, but I still don't expect anything tighter than a 6 inch spread at 100 yards.
 
If you want cheap accuracy, look elsewhere: The Savage bolt-guns are great accurate value for not a whole lot of money. Compared to groups from the Savage, the Ruger looked like a shotgun.

I started with a Ruger DSP (why I wasted my money on that nice walnut, I'll never know). I now have:

Original Receiver
DLASK 16" Bull Barrel
Hogue Rubber Overmolded Stock
Volquartsen Trigger Group
Rubber Bolt Buffer
VQ Extractor with factory spring

So for approximately $1000 all-in, I now have a gun that might shoot as well as my $200 Savage (I haven't yet had them side-by-side to compare, but the bull barrel has easily cut the groups in 1/2, if not more).

It used to be able to eat anything without any FTE or FTF. Now, I guess the chamber is tighter on the new barrel, and I have had some issues with CCI Velocitors, and I wouldn't attempt trying stingers. However, if it chambers, I can still pull the trigger as fast as I want and empty a 30-round mag with ease.
 
My experience is if you try a bunch of different ammo, you should get to around 1" 5 shot groups at 50yds with a basic 10/22.
I've had good luck with remington subsonics first, and win333 second.
Some have found that removing the barrel band results in an improvement as well.
 
Mine would do about 3/4" to 1" for 10 shots at 50M wearing the standard barrel, with its favorite hunting ammo, Winchester Power Points. With Lapua target ammo it could shrink those groups to within 1/2", when I did my part. But with all other ammo, it was a 1.5 to 2" shooter at that distance, on a good day.

It now wears a heavy Kidd barrel and most 10 shot groups are under 1/2" at 50m.

By the way, this is with an improved 2.25 lb trigger, the factory trigger will make good groups a lot harder to get.
 
GeoTrekr said:
If you want cheap accuracy, look elsewhere: The Savage bolt-guns are great accurate value for not a whole lot of money. Compared to groups from the Savage, the Ruger looked like a shotgun.

I started with a Ruger DSP (why I wasted my money on that nice walnut, I'll never know). I now have:

Original Receiver
DLASK 16" Bull Barrel
Hogue Rubber Overmolded Stock
Volquartsen Trigger Group
Rubber Bolt Buffer
VQ Extractor with factory spring

So for approximately $1000 all-in, I now have a gun that might shoot as well as my $200 Savage (I haven't yet had them side-by-side to compare, but the bull barrel has easily cut the groups in 1/2, if not more).

It used to be able to eat anything without any FTE or FTF. Now, I guess the chamber is tighter on the new barrel, and I have had some issues with CCI Velocitors, and I wouldn't attempt trying stingers. However, if it chambers, I can still pull the trigger as fast as I want and empty a 30-round mag with ease.
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Your comparing a semi to a bolt gun...of course the bolt gun will win hands down. Its like me saying my bolt .223Rem shoots better then so and so's AR...kinda an obvious statment:p. For me 2" at 50 yards is more then enough for anything you'd use a 10/22 for.
 
must be the gun

Was out with my new K10/22-T yesterday for the first time and it had great accuracy. It's set up with a Leupold 3x9 x40 with Leupold base and rings and Harris bipod. After barrel break-in and had it dialled in, golf balls at 50 yards every shot and pop cans at 100 yards. Federal 36g copper plated HP ammo.Even my buddys old carbine with a barrel band,shot gun caseings off the ends of tree branches at 25 yards over the hood of the truck with open sites.I have never had a bad 10/22, they have all been fairly accurate.
 
OK, after 3 hrs and @500ish rounds my 10/22 is definitely a fun little carbine. I was getting @1.5"-2"ish at 50m and just alittle under an inch at 25m. Hitting an 8" gong offhand with the scope set at 4x was fairly common, the 4" gong less so but still possible if I did my part. I was using older Winny Target, had one mis-fire, a couple of FTFeeds, and some malfunctions with mag operations. This was the mag that came with the carbine, the new one worked flawlessly. I've decided that a fixed power scope, somewhere around 3x to 6x will be enough, with a small red-dot on top. I can't imagine a more fun little rifle, either for plinking or zombie-gopher control.
Cheers!!
 
Thread title should be"

Ruger 10/22 "accuracy"

It's a total joke. 5MOA or so. Maybe 2-2.5 at 50 yards.

Buy a savage mark 2 - save some money and hit what you're shooting at.

If you're looking for a repeating toy with tons of stocks and other toys to bolt onto it, might I suggest airsoft.

I have a ruger 10/22 and I couldn't be most dissapointed with it. It stovepipe jams constantly and I can't seem to find ammunition it works with reliably. this is brand new this year, BTW.

This gun is over-rated crap.

The best argument I can find for it is that, although it's kind of crap out of the box, if you just spend $$$ on these third party accessories, it can be made as decent as any other gun that costs 1/5 as much
 
Until the Angels Fall said:
Your comparing a semi to a bolt gun...of course the bolt gun will win hands down. Its like me saying my bolt .223Rem shoots better then so and so's AR...kinda an obvious statment:p. For me 2" at 50 yards is more then enough for anything you'd use a 10/22 for.
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I'm glad we agree. Let's go back to the original post:

Mornin all,
Am heading out in an hour or so for the first shots through a new-to-me 10/22. What kind of accuracy can I expect as a baseline? I've heard of ragged hole groups at 50m, clover leaf, and @ 1". I'm gonna try my varmint scope(3-12) as well as a red-dot, may also try the irons.
Cheers!!
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The purpose of my post was to explain that "ragged holes" are not a realistic baseline for accuracy in the factory rifle, emphasis on factory.

The 10/22s producing ragged holes at 50 yards aren't 10/22s anymore. They likely have $100s of dollars invested to make them so.

Idcurrie said:
Thread title should be"

Ruger 10/22 "accuracy"

It's a total joke. 5MOA or so. Maybe 2-2.5 at 50 yards.

Buy a savage mark 2 - save some money and hit what you're shooting at.

If you're looking for a repeating toy with tons of stocks and other toys to bolt onto it, might I suggest airsoft.

I have a ruger 10/22 and I couldn't be most dissapointed with it. It stovepipe jams constantly and I can't seem to find ammunition it works with reliably. this is brand new this year, BTW.

This gun is over-rated crap.

The best argument I can find for it is that, although it's kind of crap out of the box, if you just spend $$$ on these third party accessories, it can be made as decent as any other gun that costs 1/5 as much
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Well I'm not sure I'd go that far. I'm sorry yours turned out to be a jam-o-matic, because that wasn't my experience at all. I had a handful of jams when the gun was brand new, but we're talking maybe 1 out of every 50 rounds, and for the most part it seemed it was the ammo. I replaced the extractor with a VQ extractor, as it was a cheap fix and I heard great things about it. From then on I've been able to feed it a steady diet of all kinds of bulk-priced crap, and it's eaten everything. Only now do I have to be careful because I have a .920 target barrel with a seemingly tighter chamber which makes it a little picky. CCI Velocitors have an almost "semi-wadcutter" shape to them, and they don't feed well. I haven't tried Stingers, but I know even the factory "Target" model recommends against using them due to the tighter tolerances.

The factory gun is certainly serviceable, but it did take a lot of cash to turn it into what I wanted out of a semi-auto rimfire. The last time I took both the 10/22 with sporter barrel and my Savage MKII to the range was a real eye-opener, and that's what prompted me to get the .920 bull barrel.
 
WOW, such strong responses! I was looking for an approx. accuracy range for these things. The way I look at it, with rifles, as in most things in life, your expectations can be higher the more $ you spend. I wasn't looking for match level accuracy, and I got that and more!!:) BUT, I do like to tinker so will just have to sit down over a weekend and do some tinkerin and see how things go. For the $ thogh, I'm happy. I would like a little smaller groups but I also need a rifle I can grab on the way out the door, toss into the truck, and not shed tears over every time I hit a bump. With some smoothing, 25 round mags, and maybe a Dlask barrel I think I'll have all that I'm looking for. I'm gonna graft an AK47 underfolder onto it as well as an M-16 pistolgrip. This SHOULD give me a reliable, simple gopher getter.
Cheers!!
 
spacesaver said:
WOW, such strong responses! I was looking for an approx. accuracy range for these things.
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Ok, I have seen a newer model do 1 inch at 50 meters, scoped (cheapo scopes) with bulk ammo. Not mine but the the shooter in the next bay. My Marlin 60 does about 1/2 - 3/4 inch at same distance, same winchester bulk dynapoint ammo.

The old 10/22, 80's vintage model, I had couldn't hit the side of the proverbial barn.
 
My kids and I have 4 Rugers 10/22s.
All like different ammo. Just read some of my notes.

These are all my averages for two 12 year olds and a 15 year old shooting.
After some help from several of the Long Range gurus at my club and
about 2000 plus rounds, each of the boys went from shooting 25 meter 3" groups to these groups at 50 meters. This summer was 30,000 plus rounds for the kids and I.

555 and blazzer are the best bang for the buck.
20 shot groups average under 3" at 50 meters
$20 for 500 rounds
Our blasting ammo with 25 round mags.

CCI standard 20 shot groups average under 2" at 50 meters
$35 for 500 rounds
Practice ammo for the TCRC Precision Long Range .22LR Match
300 yards with 22lr.

Lapua standard plus, Eley Sport
20 round groups average just over 1" at 50 meters
$50 for 500 rounds
Match ammo, we try to get at least 100 rounds down the barrel before we shoot
a match.

Eley Tenex , Eley Match
20 shot groups under 1" some real nice 5 shot groups under 1/2" at 50 meters
$150 for 500 rounds

I think this is the type of info you are looking for.
These are all averages, from shooting all summer, in all weather conditions, with
4 different people shooting.

I see this at the range all the time, some tard shows up with a brand new 10/22
and the cheapest ammo they can find. Then wont stop crying about how crappy their gun is.

I bought a CZ452 so my old 10/22 is now the ground hog/bush gun.
Shoots 2" groups at 50 meters with CCI stingers.

Hope some of this helps.
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replaced the extractor with a VQ extractor, as it was a cheap fix and I heard great things about it. From then on I've been able to feed it a steady diet of all kinds of bulk-priced crap
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This about sums up the 10/22. The extractor is crap - replaced it and problems went away. the barrel is crap. Replaced it and now i'm shooting 2" groups instead of 5". etc etc etc.

Good gun for modding and making it the way you want. If you're looking at a stock firearm and don't plan to play alot, look elsewhere.

The last time I took both the 10/22 with sporter barrel and my Savage MKII to the range was a real eye-opener, and that's what prompted me to get the .920 bull barrel.
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Yep. So, anyone want to trade a Ruger 10/22 carbine for, say, a savage mark II? It's only had about 80 rounds through it... ;)
 
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