10/22 accuracy

People, thanks for the responses but lets keep the name calling out. A couple of you have given some excellent info, and I've also learned that a certain amount of tinkering would benefit the rifle. No, I haven't tried ANY different ammo as it was the first time shooting and it was @-10ish with a slight wind. I totally agree that, if I wanted accuracy first and foremost, a 10/22 shouldn't have been on my list. While I do have a Savage Mk11 in .17HMR, what I wanted was a FUN rifle for gophers and action shoots. For this task, I can't think of a better base rifle to start with.
Anyway, thanks all!!
Cheers!!
 
i picked one up as a plinker/ squierrell population control, and i can hit a squerrell in the head nooo prob at 10- 70 yards now problem using cheap ammo so i think that it is accurate enough for the price!
 
YGF said:
i picked one up as a plinker/ squierrell population control, and i can hit a squerrell in the head nooo prob at 10- 70 yards now problem using cheap ammo so i think that it is accurate enough for the price!
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You'd tend to think that is good enough for the accuracy department but according to some on CGN if you don't spend $1500 on a rifle and the same amount on a scope and it can't cut cards in half at 100 yards...(using match grade, $ ammo and on a full bench set up as well...but they leave this out in their stories) your rifle is garbage.
 
Until the Angels Fall said:
You'd tend to think that is good enough for the accuracy department but according to some on CGN if you don't spend $1500 on a rifle and the same amount on a scope and it can't cut cards in half at 100 yards...(using match grade, $ ammo and on a full bench set up as well...but they leave this out in their stories) your rifle is garbage.
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yep lol thats why i just picked one up and started shooting!!!!!
 
I'll throw my 2 cents in. I had the ruger 10/22 with the 16.5" barrel and found it to be ok for accuracy but after switching to a Marlin 60ss I hit way more then I did before. You can take any 10/22, 597, or any .22 and turn it into a tack driver if your willing to drop some coin into it but that holds true with any rifle. An upgraded and tuned Rem 700 will out shoot a stock 700, not a surprise. But sometimes you get lucky and get a stock rifle that is a shooter. I hope yours turns out to be one and your happy with it. Cheers, Rat.
 
AWOL said:
I'm so tired of hearing that the 10/22 is not accurate. Certainly mine is...

Stock carbine 10/22 (circa 1980)
Burris Fullfield II 3 X 9 X 40 scope
100 yds bench rested w/little to no wind
Bulk Winchester 333 ammo
Rate of fire = approx 1 rnd/sec.

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This gun has 10,000+ rounds through it over 30 years.
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You Sir, got one of the good ones.

Treasure that gun & never be tempted to part with it.
 
rugerfan said:
Sweet video, reminds me of a first person shooter. To me that is the 10/22 in its element, quick shooting. Didn't notice any jams either...hmmmm?
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He has a bunch of good videos on there with the 10/22 as well as alot of others. He is a pretty cool guy, ive messaged back and forth with him. Hes lucky he lives in Tennesee, so they have great gun laws.
 
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Can't help but enter this thread. I owned a 10/22 for 20 years ,and am surprised to see such an extreme opinion on them. Mine is not a tackdriver, but it will shoot around 1" at 50 from the bench. The factory 10/22 trigger takes a bit to master even off a bench rest. I havent found an ammunition type yet, it doesn't digest. Has there been a quality control/material problem with new 10/22's?? Anyone here whos as old as i am will remember that Ruger were the one's who got it right with an economical 22 because of the care in the magazine design(Rotary 10) which seemed to make it flawless. One point i will make, mine is the deluxe model with walnut stock and no barrel band. If this has something to do with reliability, i dont see why, but ill throw it in seeing as alot of complaints are about the standard carbine lately. As one well read gun writer from the 70s and 80s said, " When you look in the Dictionary under the word RELIABILITY, its says ; See Ruger 10/22!!" This is one of the things that prompted me to buy a 10/22 over a Remington 552 (another fine semi). So WTF has happened to a firearm that was known for its reliability with many ammo types and now we have to try many ammo types to find ONE they like . This sounds alot like the 1970s and 80s to me when the first cheap knockoffs of fairly sound, earlier designed .22 Semis were being built. Alot of their problems were their magazines. I like for further discussion from people experienced with the 10/22 who know if Ruger is lacking in their Quality control/Materials these days.



Happy New Year All!
 
RememberTheSomme said:
Can't help but enter this thread. I owned a 10/22 for 20 years ,and am surprised to see such an extreme opinion on them. Mine is not a tackdriver, but it will shoot around 1" at 50 from the bench. The factory 10/22 trigger takes a bit to master even off a bench rest. I havent found an ammunition type yet, it doesn't digest. Has there been a quality control/material problem with new 10/22's?? Anyone here whos as old as i am will remember that Ruger were the one's who got it right with an economical 22 because of the care in the magazine design(Rotary 10) which seemed to make it flawless. One point i will make, mine is the deluxe model with walnut stock and no barrel band. If this has something to do with reliability, i dont see why, but ill throw it in seeing as alot of complaints are about the standard carbine lately. As one well read gun writer from the 70s and 80s said, " When you look in the Dictionary under the word RELIABILITY, its says ; See Ruger 10/22!!" This is one of the things that prompted me to buy a 10/22 over a Remington 552 (another fine semi). So WTF has happened to a firearm that was known for its reliability with many ammo types and now we have to try many ammo types to find ONE they like . This sounds alot like the 1970s and 80s to me when the first cheap knockoffs of fairly sound, earlier designed .22 Semis were being built. Alot of their problems were their magazines. I like for further discussion from people experienced with the 10/22 who know if Ruger is lacking in their Quality control/Materials these days.



Happy New Year All!
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Good post and I value your first hand experience. To answer your question on the reliability of the "new" 10/22's, perhaps there may be a bad few out there, but I have a carbine and SR/22 both with the new "polymer" trigger housings. Both of these arms have proven to be completely reliable with both the factory magazines and with butler creek steel lips magazines.

I shoot all types of ammo and have yet to find one that will choke either of these rifles up. I am trying to find a video I made of 3x25 round mags with 3 types of ammo, all fired back to back and as fast as I could pull the trigger. Net result was not 1 jam, and I could do that all day.

In fact if I don't find that video then next time I go shooting I will do one dedicated to this thread. I'm betting I can put 10x25 round mags through a new "plastic 10/22" with not one malfunction. Any takers on that?
 
yesterday I had my 10/22 out with my sr-22 barrel on it , at about 30yards with a 4x bushnell and win 333's I was getting 10 shot quarter sized groups
 
Idcurrie said:
Thread title should be"

Ruger 10/22 "accuracy"

It's a total joke. 5MOA or so. Maybe 2-2.5 at 50 yards.

Buy a savage mark 2 - save some money and hit what you're shooting at.

If you're looking for a repeating toy with tons of stocks and other toys to bolt onto it, might I suggest airsoft.

I have a ruger 10/22 and I couldn't be most dissapointed with it. It stovepipe jams constantly and I can't seem to find ammunition it works with reliably. this is brand new this year, BTW.

This gun is over-rated crap.

The best argument I can find for it is that, although it's kind of crap out of the box, if you just spend $$$ on these third party accessories, it can be made as decent as any other gun that costs 1/5 as much
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IDcurrie have you tried another Ruger 10 round magazine in your rifle?
You are getting mostly FTE and not FTF right?
Usually when i hear people complain of auto loaders malfunctioning ,be it pistol or AR type rifles ,i always stress the utmost importance of magazine reliability to make the platform run properly.

If i had a 10/22 acting like you have stated, it would be a warrantied one back to Ruger for me. Trust me its not supposed to work like that. It makes me feel like 30 years ago with a Lakefield 64B, that was pleasing accurate, i mean all x's and tens on those old 20yd DCRA targets, but always had fingers crossed because it would stovepie usually 1 in 20 on the average. This was with Imperial supplied 40gr Ball DND ammo to our provincial club or any Retail hunting ammo of the time i could get . Today theres a thousand times more ammo types avaliable. I always felt it was the mag causing the FTE. Most blame this on extractors, but I think the mag can cause it as well.:popCorn:
 
GeoTrekr said:
The differences in people's experiences with the 10/22 really is fascinating. I would like to know how this alone compares with other rifles out there.

Mine runs the 25 round magazines just as well as the factory 10 rounders, and always has, with both the stock and after-market barrels.
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Mine as well. Doesn't matter what the magazine is.
 
RememberTheSomme said:
I always felt it was the mag causing the FTE. Most blame this on extractors, but I think the mag can cause it as well.:popCorn:
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I'm still in the camp that thinks most FTF is from the mag :yingyang: , and most FTE is from the extractor...:redface:....though it does make me wonder how some factory extractors perform so much better than others...;)
 
If your last round never FTE's (stovepie), why would number 7 or number 4 fail to extract, or more precisely, fail to eject, and never the last round. Geometry and upward force of magazine spring on top round and a slower than normal cycle speed due to inconsistency in ammo causing round to be defelected,by top round in mag, before ejector can do its designed thing. Just my opinion on .22 semi auto stovepipes(failure to eject), though not a very scientific one.
 
I don't have access to another mag to try. However, it is brand new so I think I will find out how to sent it back to Ruger for testing next week if I don't just replace the extractor and sell it.

It does seem to be a VERY common problem though:

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=12423&sid=2b7b13a4db1d8b55f28455ea2b3ab0a4

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=46565

http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/archive/index.php/t-40228.html

http://shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=38718

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=87936

etc etc etc
 
With a green mountain bull barrel and stock internals I was able to get .479" 10 shot groups at 50yds with 333 ammo. I am sure with an upgraded trigger and bolt that group would shrink even more. Might also help if I was to sort the ammo out by weight and rim thickness.

Top Left is 333 ammo

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hey, if you search FTE on here I had a post on the exact same thing. I decrudded the top arch of the breech face and FTE problem solved entirely.
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I have an stainless 10/22 all stock except for mag release and bolt hold open mod. My friend has two blued and we can shoot golf balls on strings at 100m all day long.

We must be really lucky. He has bushnell 3200 3 to 9 on his and I have a bushnell rimfire on mine. The ammo that we have found that works the best is rem thunder bolt. It functions all the 10/22s, MK 2 and 22/45 we have.

Shawn
 
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