10/22 optic choice, 50yds

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Hey, i presume this subject has been beat to death but here we go again. My mind is kind of set right now, i am seeking opinions before swiping the card. Here is the 10/22 in question.



Volsquarten(or however its spelled) power extractor
Full bolt and receiver polish
Trigger job, 2 1/4 pounds break point
Hogue OM stock
McGowen .920'' bull barrel x 13 inches long ( 1:16 )
Bolt rubber buffer
I put a whole lot of blue locktite while fastening top ruger rail.
Auto bolt release

As a reference i have an SR22, when fitted with the McGowan barrel free floating, with a bushnell AR red dot, i grouped 1 1/4'' to 1 1/2'' at 50yds. So i know the barrel is potable.
My goal here, is 1 inch at 50 yards. At 1 inch i am calling this project complete. So let's hope the firearm is capable of this independent of scope.
Here is the product i had spotted :

http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=21_316_317_321&products_id=2465

In your opinion is this scope capable of 1 inch @ 50?
I do not wish to underpay, i drew the line that i should not pay less than 200$ for quality glass. On the same idea, i do not wish to pay 500$ for something that's costing 200$ can achieve, as i am not planning at all to go beyond 50.

Thanks in advance for the feedback!

EDIT : Forgot to mention, i have tested a ravage 3-9x40 rimfire scope i had bought a year ago on this, grouping was going everywhere, same ammo as when i had good grouping on SR22.
 
what? you want to have your rifle shoot a one inch group at 50 yards.. and think the scope, or optic is going to make that happen?
I bought a cheap butler creek heavy barrel stock and my rifle puts all the shots in one hole at 50 yards.
The barrel is what is going to give you the accuracy.. not the optic you look through.
you could put a cope on there that someone gave you for free, or go out and spend $1000 on a scope. the ends result will be the same.
but whatever optic you think will work...
 
put the rifle on a rest. have the front and the rear of the rifle supported. put that old scope you have back on there, and try again. do not move anything but your trigger finger when you shoot. Make sure your scope is mounted tight to the rail.
 
Scope was mounted tight, but that ravage is a cheap POS. The slightest movement and you see the crosshairs jump in it. And at this point yes i do beleive the scope is making the difference, the SR22 had the same 2 1/4 trigger job, same barrel, and performed better with a red dot. In scopes i have heard of paralax setting accuracy off whatever that means, but am too new to rifle setups.
And also i am not the best shooter, but am 95% confident in my technique today. Before trying the 22 i went to zero my .223 at the 100yds range. Got out of there with an 1 1/2'' grouping.
So rimfire with same sandbag at 50 instead of 100 shouldn't be an issue.
 
To the OP I understand where you're coming from. I have a savage btvs that has a sightron 10-50x and groups fantastic but having a scope I can see the group.
Having iron sights at 50yds, I'm sorry to say two shots I might be able to make out. Shooting ten+ then I can see my group. Having a scope you can clearly see where ever bullet hits.
Yes the gun and you do the work but the scope helps!
At $200 price range you can get a tasco scope with alot more power. IMO the same glass quality.
It comes down to how much you want to spend and how much weight you want to add to your rifle.
I have a 10/22 with a trs-25 and group 1.5" @ 50yds but know if I had a scope, it would be smaller. However I'm not wanting to spend $400+ on an ultralight scope. If I want to put holes in a popcan at 100+ yrds, I switch to my boltaction.
 
As far as magnification goes, even a fixed 4x would fit the bill. I have a fixed 4x ACOG mounted on an armalite national match carry handle. I set this up on the SR22 once for ####s and giggles, whille grouping was far off center as i did not want to rezero, some of the groups had an inch. I am feeling that with cheap scopes, they are not holding zero or have vision issues.
This statement will be in my opinion, a quality 4x is wayyyy better than a mediocre 20x. As with the cheap 20x you will see the holes, but point of impact can be all over the place.
Anyone has experience with the vortex diamondback rimfire?
 
bollox is it the regular diamondback or the rimfire diamondback? i have heard there as rugged as the rimfire one can be mounted on shotgun, it has to do with paralax
 
a cheap tasco red dot will allow you to "rat hole" at 50 yards. I am wondering if maybe it has something to do with barrel length? 1:16, and your barrel is 13"? Maybe has something to do with the bullet not getting a full revolution before leaving? Ive never shot one of the short .22's, mine are both 18.5 and no issues at all.
maybe its a combination of a couple things? dont spend lots on a scope for a .22.

I'll sell you my old Simmons 3X9 for $100 shipping included, that was on my .22 for a few years.. couple scratches on it, but I assure you its tight.
 
Best rimfire scopes for the money......

Nikon P22 Rimfire - Around $200 and a nice tactical setup that will match your gun well.

Sightron SI Rimfire 2-7 or 3-9 - around $160-$180

Nikon Prostaff Rimfire - 4x or 3-9 - Around $150.

I really like the P22 for such a build as it has the tactical turrets, and looks just as badass.

My former 10/22 Build:

 
Mlehtovaara, wow we sure did have similar builds! But i guess i did get some inspiration off the VLEH edition.
I am curious, how did you group @ 50?

Hoochie, i never stopped to think that my bullet never fully turned in the barrel, now that i think of it it is mind boggling. I am presuming it's 1:16, on the side of barrel it only writes ( .22lr (16) bentz )
 
Scopes in the 3-9 range are ok for plinking, for target shooting, min at 25 yrds, 15x 50 yrds, 24x To make small groups you need to see the poa consistently. Just my opinion as seen through old eyes.
 
MartyK2500 said:
Bolox the crossfires are even a little less expensive than the diamondbacks, how is it working out for you?
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Really well barring if mounted on a bolt action, you really need to watch clearances. Had to use high rings on CZ's as the eyepiece is a bit on the ''chunky" side. Obv not an issue on semi's or levers..
 
Metal bender, you do see your shots with 9x @50. I was shooting on the 4x setting, and set to 9x to check on grouping.
I am trying to keep away from high magnification glass, but want good glass.
 
MartyK2500 said:
Mlehtovaara, wow we sure did have similar builds! But i guess i did get some inspiration off the VLEH edition.
I am curious, how did you group @ 50?
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The scope will have little to nothing to do with groups at 50m.

Any decent scope will perform the same.

My barrel was a Dlask Match and that is where the accuracy came from. That and upgrading the entire trigger are the best things you can do for accuracy. The hammer is a start but still doesn't make it good enough IMHO.

Groups were floating around 1/2 inch at 50m.
 
Barrel is a McGowan match grade, and as i have said this rifle has had inch groups with an acog (overkill for this)
Right now i do get it that cheaps scopes must do the job, but my scope is clearly defective. Red dot 1 1/4" and this scope well, over 2". It's not normal to have better groups with 0x than with 4-5x.
 
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