10/22 short barrel
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Yes, you will have problems.
10/22 with slip-fit barrel is meant to have a support in the front.
Free floating it only enhances the movement
between the barrel-receiver,
and putting un-necessary stress on the receiver.
10/22 with slip-fit barrel is meant to have a support in the front.
Free floating it only enhances the movement
between the barrel-receiver,
and putting un-necessary stress on the receiver.
Sorry for the offhand questions but ...
What if the receiver had some sort of built in reinforcement, such as the DAR22 with the built in top rail? Or any other receiver with a thicker top? Could you free float the shorter lighter barrels and not worry about the dreaded "droop"?
Just wondering
What if the receiver had some sort of built in reinforcement, such as the DAR22 with the built in top rail? Or any other receiver with a thicker top? Could you free float the shorter lighter barrels and not worry about the dreaded "droop"?
Just wondering
The flex in the receiver (as in a factory thin top)
is NOT the only effect of the stress.
The tennon being too short for that barrel weight, there is also
a lot of stress in the aluminum sorrounding the barrel hole,
specifically in the top-rear and front-bottom portion of the hole and also
in the .920" barrel support area in the front of the receiver.
The only solution for a worry-free free-floating is threaded barrel in the receiver.
is NOT the only effect of the stress.
The tennon being too short for that barrel weight, there is also
a lot of stress in the aluminum sorrounding the barrel hole,
specifically in the top-rear and front-bottom portion of the hole and also
in the .920" barrel support area in the front of the receiver.
The only solution for a worry-free free-floating is threaded barrel in the receiver.
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Because it just looks badass with a 12.5" barrel and 7" handguard. Also its only 27" long in this config so just big enough to be non-restricted. Anyways its got an E0tech on it so its not like I need ridiculous accuracy. I am running a SR-22 barrel on my custom scoped 10/22, I actually purchase the barrel off JT who posted above...and now I've got an extra SR-22 barrel. It looks very good with the short barrel.
I don't think there is any easy way to attach a barrel support block to the handguard I purchased and I would think the flex from the handguard would be worse on accuracy than having my very short fairly light barrel free floated. Everyone with an Archangel kit must have their barrel floating right?
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I'm building an Archangel 10/22 with a 12.5 dlask barrel which is indeed free floated. There is lateral flex but not horizontal.
Will be interesting to see how it all works out in the end
Will be interesting to see how it all works out in the end
Off the free floated topic, I did put 12.5 from Dlask on mine. The problem I had it would not extract, I did get new volquaster extractor. It worked fine but on the third magazine about 60 rounds fired in total it ripped back of the empty case and chamber new round.
Results was lots of smoke and small explosion. Looked seriously scarry, luckly nothing happened except extractor flew away not to be seen again.
I think the chambers on Dlask barrels are bit tight
Results was lots of smoke and small explosion. Looked seriously scarry, luckly nothing happened except extractor flew away not to be seen again.
I think the chambers on Dlask barrels are bit tight
Accurate by your standards, perhaps. I shot close to 500 rounds out of mine last week while experimenting with ammo at 25 yds. Accuracy was from absolutely horrible to acceptable. I wasn't expecting benchrest results but I was surprised that in the level of variation in accuracy.
The top (5) in terms of accuracy were: Federal 710's, CCI Stingers, CCI Blazers, American Eagle, and Winchester Dynapoints.
I've got the same Dlask barrel waiting to go on mine. I'm hoping that the Bentz chamber and quality of the Lothar Walther barrel will improve overall accuracy over the stock barrel.
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Murat,
Would you please explain this statement a little more clearly. I am trying to visualize what happened exactly and I am totally failing to see it. What made the smoke and explosion, a live round going off? Did you mean the whole head seperated on the fired round and left the case body in the chamber. The next round then went in far enough to actually be fired? I would really like to understand as I do fiddle with these guns quite a bit and would like to avoid any possible problems. Maybe PM an answer if you would as this is not really the subject of this thread
Sorry OP.Kim
Extractor ripped back of fired case and cycled trying to push new round in to the chamber. Chamber was already blocked with ripped case.
The new round was squeezed by the moving bolt and exploded blowing away extractor. There was no more damage to the gun except blown away extractor
The new round was squeezed by the moving bolt and exploded blowing away extractor. There was no more damage to the gun except blown away extractor
I've had the same issue with CCI blazer ammo as well with my 16" Dlask barrel. 1 round went off a little early and blew my extractor out. Scary s***. Called Dlask and was told blazers are about .001 to .002 bigger than most .22 ammo and too tight for the Dlask chamber. They will make the chambers larger if you wish from what I was told.
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I'm no expert on this by any means. I am under the impression that the idea behind the Bentz chamber is to have match type accuracy in a semi-auto rifle. It's unfortunate that Blazers won't work well with Dlask's barrels, however, there's plenty other brands of rimfire ammo available.
Question for you guys with Dlask barrels. Did you see an overall increase in accuracy once the new barrel was installed? Did the new barrel have decidely different preferences for certain types/brands of ammo than what the factory 16" tube preferred?
Question for you guys with Dlask barrels. Did you see an overall increase in accuracy once the new barrel was installed? Did the new barrel have decidely different preferences for certain types/brands of ammo than what the factory 16" tube preferred?
The free floated barrels are not all bad on a 10/22. I think the difference is the tolerances on the barrel. I have two 10/22's, both with free float. One is a Tactical Solutions 16.5" barrel. Its a tack driver, great accuracy. No floating zero. The other is a custom 11.5" barrel by Bits of Pieces. Similar performance (but slightly less accuracy at range). The reason I think these do not suffer movement is because they are incredibly tight into the reciever. I have to really work it into the receiver. Once in, they don't move.
The Tacsol barrel is in a Nordic components chassis. The 11.5" custom is in an FS-556 chassis by Fabsports.
The Tacsol barrel is in a Nordic components chassis. The 11.5" custom is in an FS-556 chassis by Fabsports.
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murat,
Thanks for the answer but it begs the obvious question. How exactly does the extractor rip the back off a fired case? The bolt with extractor attached is driven back by the fired case acting as a piston and as such cannot possibly tear the head off a case. A head can seperate from the body of a case but this has nothing to do with the extractor. It is usualy caused by a round not seating fully but still far enough in for the gun to go into battery. The extractor is only there to extract live rounds and control spent ones for proper ejection, it does not pull out spent rounds in the firing cycle
.Kim
