10.3x60 R

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Do any of the European caliber fans have experience with the "10,3x60 R", apparently it is very popular in the region my Grandfather is from but I can't find any info or comparisons on it in english or french.

Is loading data available in any of the popular manuals? Seems it is similar in dimension to the 400 h and h mag

Some of the minimal stuff I've read suggests that this is the only caliber allowed for hunting in Graubunden (Grisons), seems like it would be a bit overkill for Chamois and Roe deer to me.
 
I don't have any information on loading but this chart gives some case dimensions.

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Load 5887 in caliber 10.3x60R mm Swiss

LoadID 5887
Bullet Blaser semi-jacketed
BulletWeight 253 grs
Powder Rottweil R903
PowderWeight 69.5 grs
Primer RWS magnum R5333
Brass Make RWS
Barrel Length 26 (inches)
C.O.L 3.051 (inches)
Velocity 2418 fps
Group 0.59 (inches by 3 shot at 100 yds)



Load 8718 in caliber 10.3x60R mm Swiss

LoadID 8718
Bullet Hornady
BulletWeight 350 grs
Powder IMR 4198
PowderWeight 52 grs
Primer CCI 250
Brass Make Norma Re Special
Barrel Length 22 (inches)
C.O.L 2 (inches)
Velocity 2200 fps
 
Load 3697 in caliber 10.3x60R mm Swiss


LoadID 3697
Bullet AERO SB 414-215
Bullet Weight 215 grs
Powder IMR 3031
Powder Weight 73.5 grs
Primer CCI 250
Brass Make HH
Barrel Length 23,5 (inches)
C.O.L 81,7 (inches)
Velocity 2895 fps
Group 100 yds 1 (inches)
Submitted By hunter
Gun Info
Comment effektive and accurate hunting load up to 250 yards


This is what i could find from reloadersnest, i hope it helps you.

Victor.
 
Thank you.

350 grains at 2200 fps sounds pretty good to me, if I'm not mistaken it seems some of these loads are only a few hundred fps behind factory 375 h and h loads in similar bullet weights.
 
I think there would be no problem using a 450/.400 2 3/8" BP in a 10.3X60R, but I doubt the later would chamber in a 450/.400.
Both cases can be made from the .450 Nitro-Express and CH4D makes dies for them.
The 10.3X60R is still listed under CIP @ 2700 bar so barely below 40 000 PSI.
 
Thanks again. Seems it is large but relatively under powered in comparison to modern magnum rounds?
 
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Well, see it as a Swiss 45-70...
A very good bear and deer caliber which can handle close moose encounters.
It was one very reputable target load in the Martini-Peabody actioned rifles.
 
The only commercial firearms I have found chambered in it are swiss single shots which are reasonably priced all things considered.

If anyone else is interested Buffalo Arms has dies and brass available. Not cheap but is it ever?

Swiss 45-70

"thank god I had my 45/70 the chamois was charging straight at me!":dancingbanana:
 
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