10 out 60? Is this normal?

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I bought a case of Sellier and Bellot 7.62 x 39 at WSS. I asked if the ammo was non-corrosive. I was assured it was. I told him I wouldn't buy it unless it was. As we were walking to the counter I told the sales guy that I wanted to be assured that he was absolutely sure that this was non-corrosive as I was going to be shooting it through an AR. He said he was absolutely sure.

I went to the range and attempted to fire off some rounds. I quit after 60 as I was experiencing a one in six failure to fire rate. The hits were not soft as the primers appeared as indented on the ones that fired compared to those that didn't. I also had 120 reloads with me and fired off eighty of them without a hitch.

I want to know if this is normal? My son bought a case for his SKS a year or so ago, Chinese stuff, and one or two in the whole case didn't fire. I understood that that was normal but 1 in 6?

Secondly, I am not 100% confident that this is non-corrosive. It is steel cased, slip inside says 10/11/99 which I assume is the date of manufacture. There is nothing to indicate, that I can see, if it is corrosive or non-corrosive.
It lists the calibre (7.62-43), weight, and box dimensions. Finally there is some letters which read lbpl/fe. Near it reads 13/61. Can anyone tell me one way or the other if this is safe in my AR or should I start tearing it down to get all the corrosive stuff out?
 
It is 100% for SURE corrosive. The WSS guy is wrong. Also there is no way it's 99 manufacture. It's 1961, as noted by headstamp.

Also caliber is 7.62x39, not x43 like you stated.

CLEAN YOUR AR NOW WITH BOILING WATER.
 
canucklehead said:
It is 100% for SURE corrosive. The WSS guy is wrong. Also there is no way it's 99 manufacture. It's 1961, as noted by headstamp.

Also caliber is 7.62x39, not x43 like you stated.

CLEAN YOUR AR NOW WITH BOILING WATER.
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any of the eastern bloc stuff says 7.62 43, 43 is the year it was introduced. Very common. potatoe=potatoe
 
I took the ammo back to the store and showed them the defective rounds and also informed them that the ammo was corrosive. After a consultation with the manager the salesman apologised and said that he thought S & B didn't make corrosive ammo.
They gave me a full refund even with 50 rounds gone.
 
Rugerman said:
I bought a case of Sellier and Bellot 7.62 x 39 at WSS. I asked if the ammo was non-corrosive. I was assured it was. I told him I wouldn't buy it unless it was. As we were walking to the counter I told the sales guy that I wanted to be assured that he was absolutely sure that this was non-corrosive as I was going to be shooting it through an AR. He said he was absolutely sure.

I went to the range and attempted to fire off some rounds. I quit after 60 as I was experiencing a one in six failure to fire rate. The hits were not soft as the primers appeared as indented on the ones that fired compared to those that didn't. I also had 120 reloads with me and fired off eighty of them without a hitch.

I want to know if this is normal? My son bought a case for his SKS a year or so ago, Chinese stuff, and one or two in the whole case didn't fire. I understood that that was normal but 1 in 6?

Secondly, I am not 100% confident that this is non-corrosive. It is steel cased, slip inside says 10/11/99 which I assume is the date of manufacture. There is nothing to indicate, that I can see, if it is corrosive or non-corrosive.
It lists the calibre (7.62-43), weight, and box dimensions. Finally there is some letters which read lbpl/fe. Near it reads 13/61. Can anyone tell me one way or the other if this is safe in my AR or should I start tearing it down to get all the corrosive stuff out?
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Not absolutely sure, but I suspect this is a repacking date. The headstamp on the case would be the true manufacture date.
 
Rutger said:
How does the AR look after feeding it that stuff?
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I took everything apart and thoroughly cleaned it. I cannot see any apparent damage. I really baby that rifle so i was very unhappy about the false info about the non corrosive aspect. However lesson learned and the gun appears to be undamaged.
 
tootall said:
Not absolutely sure, but I suspect this is a repacking date. The headstamp on the case would be the true manufacture date.
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The number on the actual cartridge is "74". So I don't know which is the actual date of manufacture. Frankly, I am just glad to be done with it.
 
Mr. Finicky Timbers said:
I can't remember if the crate I had was '73 or '74, but I had a similar FTF rate as you had. Maybe a bad primer lot?
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Something that bothered me when I opened it was a layer of oil that seeped out of the tin/lead seal. Now, none of the boxes were stained with oil but when things started going south that kind of stuck in my mind. Definitely a bad lot of primers or something because as earlier related you couldn't tell by looking at the fired/unfired primers which were which. The people at WSS (upon reflection perhaps not that relevant) agreed that the firing pin hits were definitely not soft. I am almost relieved to hear someone else had the same problem. Were you able to take yours back?
 
I didn't bother. I found that recocking the action and attempting to fire the round a second time resulted in a near 90% success rate. Sure it sucked, but at least I got to shoot most of it. That's also probably the reason I sold my SKS. Perhaps the primers were too hard?
 
Rutger said:
How does the AR look after feeding it that stuff?
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it will be just fine....shooting corrosive ammo is not hard on your gun....leaving your gun with corrosive chemicals on parts is hard on it....shoot it then clean it everytime....won't make a difference as long as you stay on top of it....
 
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