10 round Lee Enfield mag
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Now that Cuzzard has his answer, could I hi-jack this thread? Thanks. With a 10 round magazine, smoother bolt and better long range (?) accuracy,
the LE must have been a superior WW2 firearm in comparasion to many other nations bolt action rifles. True?
One other thing, LE carbines: No5 jungle carbine, is that all? Sorry for all the newb questions, I always looked the other way whenever
I came across a Lee-Enfield in my younger days, but now I am interested in milsurps.
1) With the 10 round magazine, the Lee Enfield outmatched the rifles of WW1 for volume of fire (Mauser, Springfield and Mosin all had 5 round magazines). During WW2 the rest of the world started catching up, but as far as bolt action rifles went, it was still top notch.
2) For actual Lee Enfield's, yes, the No5 Mk1 is it. There's other carbines that came before that were built on the Lee action, but they weren't Lee Enfield's.
Only if you hunt migratory birds with it.
The information you received is the typical internet nonsense.
There is no magazine limitation for bolt action rifles, the five round limitation is for semi-automatic rifles only.
Did somebody say 'carbines' ?
1893 Lee Metford Trials carbine
1895 Lee Metford Cavalry carbine
1896 Lee Enfield Cavalry carbine
1901 Lee Enfield New Zealand carbine
1904 Royal Irish Constabulary carbine
All have six round magazines.
1892-1916 Trade Pattern carbine. Five round 'fish belly' mag.
"There's other carbines that came before that were built on the Lee action, but they weren't Lee Enfield's." True, some were Lee Metfords. However, RSAF Enfield produced in excess of 18,000 Lee Enfield Cavalry carbines and 1500 New Zealand carbines (Official designation of NZ carbine was 'Carbine, Lee Enfield, fitted to take the 1888 pattern bayonet'). The RIC carbines were conversions of existing Enfield/Metford cav carbines.
RCMP used cav carbines for mounted training right up into the 1960s.
The No.5 Lee Enfield was referred to as a 'lightened rifle' in service, never as a carbine (oops, never say never with an Enfield). The term 'Jungle Carbine' is USA surplus dealer advertising hype coined in the 1960s.
1893 Lee Metford Trials carbine
1895 Lee Metford Cavalry carbine
1896 Lee Enfield Cavalry carbine
1901 Lee Enfield New Zealand carbine
1904 Royal Irish Constabulary carbine
All have six round magazines.
1892-1916 Trade Pattern carbine. Five round 'fish belly' mag.
"There's other carbines that came before that were built on the Lee action, but they weren't Lee Enfield's." True, some were Lee Metfords. However, RSAF Enfield produced in excess of 18,000 Lee Enfield Cavalry carbines and 1500 New Zealand carbines (Official designation of NZ carbine was 'Carbine, Lee Enfield, fitted to take the 1888 pattern bayonet'). The RIC carbines were conversions of existing Enfield/Metford cav carbines.
RCMP used cav carbines for mounted training right up into the 1960s.
The No.5 Lee Enfield was referred to as a 'lightened rifle' in service, never as a carbine (oops, never say never with an Enfield). The term 'Jungle Carbine' is USA surplus dealer advertising hype coined in the 1960s.
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No, the last place I seen this regulation it was fine as long as you loaded no more than 5 rounds. Must have been a conservative that wrote that reg! Anyway, most provinces that had mag limits for hunting got rid of them after the Federal govt put mag limits in the criminal code.
Are there many of these LEC marked LE's available? How long are the barrels for these in original configuration? Is the magazine interchangeable?
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Very debatable. Personally I like the Swiss perspective on it. It doesn't matter how much ammo is in the magazine of the bolt action rather how quickly you can reload it. If your charger system sucks then it doesn't matter how many round were in your magazine. The Lebel had 8 rounds, but since it was a tubular magazine it took forever to reload it. The Swiss actually went from a 12rd magazine to a 6rd magazine (loaded with likely the best chargers out of any nation, exceptionally easy to load) because they figured to load the 12rd magazine it took two chargers in a row, to load 12rds in the 6rd magazine it took two chargers. Unless your changing the capacity of the chargers it doesn't matter too much when you actually get down to combat.
The No.5 Mk I as a side note takes a full 10 round magazine.
LECs had 20-3/4 inch barrels.
Mags are not interchangeable with other arms unless modified.
Mags are not interchangeable with other arms unless modified.
Thanks for this^^ and showing us that great collection of LE carbines!
Yes, the Magazine Lee Enfield (MLE) adopted in 1895 had a ten-round magazine. The Short Magazine Lee Enfield (SMLE) which replaced it followed suit, as did the No.4 Rifle which replaced that. (And the No.5 Rifle which became a limited replacement for the No.4 used the No.4 magazine.)
