10 shot M14 mags

ivor said:
I don't think the Mossberg MVP mags are m14 mags. In his article Layne Simpson stated that the gun would work with M14 mags, but that Mossberg would be offering their own 5, 10, and 20 round mags. They even seem to look different, having open slots on the side.
Ivor
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Maybe is Mossberg OEM mag , but look like D&H SR25/LR-308 10rd 308 Mag
 
ivor said:
I don't think the Mossberg MVP mags are m14 mags. In his article Layne Simpson stated that the gun would work with M14 mags, but that Mossberg would be offering their own 5, 10, and 20 round mags. They even seem to look different, having open slots on the side.
Ivor
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If the magazine is Marked (MPV only) it will not be pinned
If it is not clearly marked on the magazine saying it is dedicated to the MPV it will automatically be considered a M 14 magazine and pinned
 
carverk said:
If the magazine is Marked (MPV only) it will not be pinned
If it is not clearly marked on the magazine saying it is dedicated to the MPV it will automatically be considered a M 14 magazine and pinned
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Just marking a magazine doesn't change anything. There is no requirement to mark any magazine in any way. The only reason they say for the LAR 15 magazines are they're the same as the rifle one meaning that you can't tell the difference if you can see a difference you don't need any markings as there is nothing else like it.
 
haha49 said:
Just marking a magazine doesn't change anything. There is no requirement to mark any magazine in any way. The only reason they say for the LAR 15 magazines are they're the same as the rifle one meaning that you can't tell the difference if you can see a difference you don't need any markings as there is nothing else like it.
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I did call the Canadian firearms center and this is what they told me
If my magazine was clearly marked that it was for -AIA Enfield only-my magazines would not have been pinned
Because there was no markings on my magazines it was automatically considered a AK-47 magazines and it had to be pinned
I was not trying to imply that all magazines had to be Mark just trying to say if the MPV magazines are not clearly marked they will automatically be considered to be a M 14 magazine and will be pinned
 
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let's hope that Mossberg is somewhat in touch with the Canadian market then.............they would end up with a tonne of extra business in accessories.
ivor
 
haha49 said:
They're not the same magazines....

The rifle is called the AIA M10 rifle. It's a repo of a lee enfeild but it isn't a lee enfeild rifle it just looks like one lots of differences. The magazine well is tapered inward so m14 magazines don't fit in it.

It was made this way for 1 simple matter in Australia if they made it fit m14 magazines it would be considered a military rifle as any rifle that takes the same magazines is considered a military rifle. Any rifle used by a modern military is considered to be banned in Australia really funky gun laws as the m14 used to be legal then they made it illegal when the USA put it back into use in Iraq. So any rifle that takes a m14 magazine in Australia is a military firearm so they made their own design of magazine well and magazine for that 1 rifle only. Try and fit an m14 magazine into an AIA and it won't fit you have to grind out the receiver to make them fit. AIA is still around the cost of the firearms doubled which is why people don't bring them in and add the demand in Australia is high with current wait lists for people to get it you won't see them coming back anytime. They did want to sell them to the Canadian military who turned around and said no.

It's tapered in the front.


you can see in the video image before you start the video that the magazine well has the metal in the front as you can see. The m14 magazines are square in the front and won't fit. You might see them coming in the future as 1 dealer is currently talking to a manfacture and has to see if they can make it or not.
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Almost but not quite, Australia banned public ownership nationally of self loading centrefire rifles following the Port Arthur massacre. Farmers used to use SKS for pig guns and some M14s were used for rifle comps but Aus has always had strange laws the military calibre was only in about 3 or 4 states and ended after WW2 when the national Govt took over licensing laws. That doesn't stop a state govt banning something or instructing its police to interpret the law in a certain way! For instance hunting is effectively banned in Queensland by moving most quarry species onto the protected list. There are exceptions for everything and professional pest controllers tend to use slug guns when shooting wild pigs from helicopters. Like I say it varies from state to state on whatlicense category that you can get.
its the same in the UK, folk think we have no guns and pistols are banned. No such thing they are just classified similar to your prohibs although if you can prove a need then you can get the category of license. I have an awful loyt that would make the liberals run for their free trade coffee shops!
 
TimC said:
Almost but not quite, Australia banned public ownership nationally of self loading centrefire rifles following the Port Arthur massacre. Farmers used to use SKS for pig guns and some M14s were used for rifle comps but Aus has always had strange laws the military calibre was only in about 3 or 4 states and ended after WW2 when the national Govt took over licensing laws. That doesn't stop a state govt banning something or instructing its police to interpret the law in a certain way! For instance hunting is effectively banned in Queensland by moving most quarry species onto the protected list. There are exceptions for everything and professional pest controllers tend to use slug guns when shooting wild pigs from helicopters. Like I say it varies from state to state on whatlicense category that you can
its the same in the UK, folk think we have no guns and pistols are banned. No such thing they are just classified similar to your prohibs although if you can prove a need then you can get the category of license. I have an awful loyt that would make the liberals run for their free trade coffee

Whoops I don't know what I did I'll have to repost haahaa
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The liberals didn't make the laws in the UK every firearms act introduced in the UK has been by a conservative govt.
 
ivor said:
let's hope that Mossberg is somewhat in touch with the Canadian market then.............they would end up with a tonne of extra business in accessories.
ivor
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I hope so too but I don't think we will be high on their priority list
Hopefully somebody will be making a aftermarket magazine dedicated to MPV
 
Yup, mossberg confirmed the 308 MVP will accept M1A mags but not sure if its vice versa (MVP mag into a M1A)? [youtube]tsEtylhriHA[/youtube]
 
carverk said:
I did call the Canadian firearms center and this is what they told me
If my magazine was clearly marked that it was for -AIA Enfield only-my magazines would not have been pinned
Because there was no markings on my magazines it was automatically considered a AK-47 magazines and it had to be pinned
I was not trying to imply that all magazines had to be Mark just trying to say if the MPV magazines are not clearly marked they will automatically be considered to be a M 14 magazine and will be pinned
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If the magazine is identical to an M1a magazine, pretty sure that it will need to be marked at manufacture as MVP specific.
Otherwise it will be considered the same as a pre-existing product i.e the M1a magazine; therefore it has to be pinned. There is precedent for this. This is why CarverKs AK mag needs to be pinned, but Beowulf mags do not, and why AIA mags are good to go in M305s.

From the fact that a range of magazines fit - i saw a video where a Magpul P-Mag fit, in addition to DPMS mags and M1a mags- i don't think the MVP mag can be identical to an M14 mag, or we'd be able to fit P-Mags in our M305s, which as far as i know, we can't.

Just some reasoning - no hard evidence to back this up - but i can say that spotting that MVP video this morning while walking the dog has certainly cheered me up.
 
BioPace said:
If the magazine is identical to an M1a magazine, pretty sure that it will need to be marked at manufacture as MVP specific.
Otherwise it will be considered the same as a pre-existing product i.e the M1a magazine; therefore it has to be pinned. There is precedent for this. This is why CarverKs AK mag needs to be pinned, but Beowulf mags do not, and why AIA mags are good to go in M305s.

From the fact that a range of magazines fit - i saw a video where a Magpul P-Mag fit, in addition to DPMS mags and M1a mags- i don't think the MVP mag can be identical to an M14 mag, or we'd be able to fit P-Mags in our M305s, which as far as i know, we can't.

Just some reasoning - no hard evidence to back this up - but i can say that spotting that MVP video this morning while walking the dog has certainly cheered me up.
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Exactly what I've been trying to say over and over again haahaa
There is another issue what about US policy with exporting hi capacity magazines what is the maximum capacity they're allowed to export and does it apply to bolt action rifle's?
Regardless of the outcome I think the MPV is a wonderful concept I have a whole box for useless 5 round M14 magazines which might not be so useless anymore LOL
 
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D&H SR25/LR-308 10rd 308 Mag
 
My guess is MVP mags are going to be. Pinned but the hell with it I still want a Mossberg MVP it will make a wonderful backup rifle when hunting
 
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carverk said:
My guess is MVP mags are going to be. Pinned but the hell with it I still want a Mossberg MVP it will make a wonderful backup rifle when hunting
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well, if they're designated as being for the mvp, maybe not.

since per the rcmp website,

Magazines designed to contain centrefire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic rifle are limited to five cartridges. However, magazines designed to contain centrefire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a rifle other than a semiautomatic or automatic rifle, do not have a regulated capacity

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The maximum permitted capacity of a magazine is determined by the kind of firearm it is designed or manufactured for use in and not the kind of firearm it might actually be used in. As a consequence, the maximum permitted capacity remains the same regardless of which firearm it might be used in

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm

i think a lot will depend on what Mossberg's marketing dept says....
 
carverk said:
Exactly what I've been trying to say over and over again haahaa
There is another issue what about US policy with exporting hi capacity magazines what is the maximum capacity they're allowed to export and does it apply to bolt action rifle's?
Regardless of the outcome I think the MPV is a wonderful concept I have a whole box for useless 5 round M14 magazines which might not be so useless anymore LOL
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Send some of that box of useless my way :)
Ivor
 
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