$100 PMag

Ah, I see you're afflicted with the "why do you need" disease.

Let me explain something to you pal, there is a long list of things you yourself possess and don't need. But there is this thing called freedom that allows you to acquire stuff you want.
You can try places where people only get what they need if you'd like, see if you like it better there.

Okay 'Pal'.. Thanks for explaining nothing..
Because really, You don't know my situation for needs and wants.

What are you going to do... Carry around 50 mags so you can have 250 cartridges for your CRAZY Semi-automatic rifle that just plows through ammo? lol. Have fun with that.
 
That's not gouging - that's called supply and demand setting the price for a commodity.

It's what happens with a free market when there is a huge spike in demand and no accompanying increase in supply.

If you don't like it - go to North Korea and try to buy PMags for under $100.
Preatty soon they are going to ask you for your first born ;)
Supply and demand right?
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Okay 'Pal'.. Thanks for explaining nothing..
Because really, You don't know my situation for needs and wants.

What are you going to do... Carry around 50 mags so you can have 250 cartridges for your CRAZY Semi-automatic rifle that just plows through ammo? lol. Have fun with that.
I plan on carrying around 15-16 mags to have 250 cartridges for my crazy semi-auto. They won't be P-mags though.
 
Gouging is for necessities, selling overpriced toys to dumb and greedy folks is not gouging, it is smart business.
 
Okay 'Pal'.. Thanks for explaining nothing..
Because really, You don't know my situation for needs and wants.

What are you going to do... Carry around 50 mags so you can have 250 cartridges for your CRAZY Semi-automatic rifle that just plows through ammo? lol. Have fun with that.

Guess what, its really none of your business what me or anybody else would care to do with 50 mags. I'm sure you have a hard time grasping that concept though.
 
hat are you going to do... Carry around 50 mags so you can have 250 cartridges for your CRAZY Semi-automatic rifle that just plows through ammo? lol. Have fun with that.

Why does it matter why somebody wants them? Just because you don't see the value in them, doesn't need somebody else has to justify a need for them.

I personally like the looks of PMAGS. Some people also like 5 rounders because they force them to go through their ammo supply a bit slower at the range. Obviously a lot of people here see the value in them because they sure as hell don't last long on the EE even priced at $50.
 
All I know is if I saw my local gun store sell the Pmags for a $100 I would walk right out and never go back. I would understand if the store bought them for 50, or 60 or whatever and selling them for $100 but I know they only payin $15 max to bring them in. Yah its a free market, supply and demand and all that stuff. but if a business wants to stay in business, it wouldn't do that to its customers! funny how it works.
 
Back in the day of the first AWB, Hi cap mags routinely went for $99, and I mean Glock and Beretta pistol mags. I don't remember rifle mags being that expensive, but I do remember Mini-14 mags being pricey as well.
 
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Depends on the version of magazine wither it be a Pmag or USGI mag....The earlier Pmags crack in arctic conditions and the early HK mags are flimsy and don't last as long as the newer gens. Sure i would prefer the newer PMAG3 but for most user here in Canada they will be served well with most mags available now...

Personally I like the body on the HK mags they fit better in my pounch than most of my Magpuls mags except possibly my Emags...

What do they do that a USGI mag doesn't for a lower cost and a lower weight? In the age of high tech minimalist kit I can't comprehend why anyone would want to add weight to their load out without gaining any advantage.

If you have a HK fetish that's fine by me, I buy all sorts of expensive stuff because I can. But I don't think you can justify that they are any better.
 

I think that diagram is too complicated for some folks here.

If buyer's don't like a price, they don't have to buy - simple as that.

If CTD started selling PMags for $0.50, I think the most adamant hater would gladly pile in to clean them out.

Thing is, in this market, with all the uncertainty with the BHO administration and both buyers and sellers are pricing that into their buying patterns.

Consider this, what if he next batch of Pmags from the factory cost retailers $50? If a company like CTD sold 100 of the last batch for $20, with a 50% margin to reclaim their purchase price and cover their operating expenses (let's say $10 per mag), that would mean they would only be able to buy 20 more newer mags.

Price fixing ALWAYS causes supply shortages, and the question the anti-capitalists here have to ask themselves is what do they prefer, expensive PMags or no PMags?

This is why there is nothing wrong with "gouging," especially for "necessities." If something was life critical, I'd rather there be expensive supply, than no supply - just look at the Canadian Health Care system to see this in practice. The reason there are ridiculously long wait times for many critical medical procedures, is because the government price fixes those services lower than what the market values them at, and so shortages emerge as the reduced cost to those services mean they are consumed in an excessive matter that does not realistically reflect demand.

Conversely, if CTD charged $100 and made a 90% margin on those same 100 mags, they could then buy 180 of the newer, high price mags, ensuring a supply surplus that, if demand is not sustained, would put them at a loss. Let's say the factory price for the mags stays the same, and the cost to CTD to source the mags stays at $10, the increased purchasing power CTD has from selling PMags to suckers at $100, means they can thus buy 900 more of the mags - which if they buy, would give them incentive to reduce the price substantially - even to the point of selling them cheaper than before the crisis began.

Blaming retailers for raising their prices is pretty stupid - simply refusing to buy at such a high price is already a scathing rebuke to such retailers. As a buyer/consumer you have final say over what you do with your money and you have no one to blame for your personal decision to buy something at an increased price but yourself.
 
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Why does it matter why somebody wants them? Just because you don't see the value in them, doesn't need somebody else has to justify a need for them.

I personally like the looks of PMAGS. Some people also like 5 rounders because they force them to go through their ammo supply a bit slower at the range. Obviously a lot of people here see the value in them because they sure as hell don't last long on the EE even priced at $50.

Obviously I do see the value in them. Hell, I'm contemplating buying 300-400 and selling them back to you guys in a year or two....

It just boggles my mind when you guys start spouting #### like 'Supply and Demand', yet you're the ones contributing to that buy buying up a big bulk box of 50-100 magazines.. And For what? Who the heck in their right mind is going to load up 20-50 magazines with 5 rounds each, and tote them all out to a range.. If you're honestly doing that... Then, I'm missing something, you're missing something upstairs or you're going to the range just to throw lead down range with no care in accuracy to see how fast you can change mags. Whatever reason you're going for, Good for you.


On the other hand, If you're just buying to flip them, I understand that. But to keep 100 magazines for yourself? Like... Do they break really easy or something? Are they only good for a couple hundred uses??

You guys are the ones driving the prices up by gobbling them up like they're candy.
 
I have owned ten (10) P-mags. I have caused one (1) to explode, traded off two (2) and sold seven (7). Technically, in my case, I have a 10% failure rate with my P-mags.

In all honestly, P-mags are only better than USGI mags is you plan on dropping them on their feed lips fully loaded, or driving over your rifle with your pickup truck before you start shooting. Sure, there's plenty of really lousy "USGI" mags out there, but a quality USGI mag will go the distance just as well as a P-mag. People flock to the P-mag over others for the same reason people buy Apple products over android products, you see the logo and you know everything they make is good to go. Buying anything else requires thought and research, and that's simply too much hassle for most people.

People are paying $100 a mag because they can't be bothered to find something comparable in quality, but priced cheaper. It's a lazy tax.
 
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