1000 dollar scope for a .308

redshooter said:
I hope you reload.

If you don't time to start. When it arrives and if your not a reloader, don't freak if it won't shoot for zhit. I've never had a factory rifle that could shoot over the counter stuff, and I've never had a factory bolt gun that I couldn't cajole a 3/4 MOA group out of.
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I dont reload yet, that will come this summer. But i was told to fire match ammo till i start reloading to get better results when starting out.

a friend of mine also recommended sightron but he said to only get the SIIISS 6-24X50 LRMOA as the reticle is only "true" at 24 magnification on it and the 8-32 model. Is that true?
 
Antimatter said:
I dont reload yet, that will come this summer. But i was told to fire match ammo till i start reloading to get better results when starting out.

a friend of mine also recommended sightron but he said to only get the SIIISS 6-24X50 LRMOA as the reticle is only "true" at 24 magnification on it and the 8-32 model. Is that true?
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All variable mag scopes will have a set magnification where the reticle is "true" unless you are using FFP.

For example my NF BR 12-42 scopes match printed specs at 22 power and is stated in the manual itself.

See example below.....
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There are Sightron mildot/ mil rad clicks scopes

No FFPs as of yet but maybe later this year. Nothing official so I have no further info.

See the website for several more scopes for 2013.

Let me know

Jerry
 
Reloading is the only way to go. Figure over $2/shot for factory match vs. under $1 for higher quality better shooting hand loads. But why in hell would he recommend going with less magnification based on the reticle being true at max power? Just do your conversion for whatever power you're on. You won't want your scope at max power with much mirage so going with more let's you back it down to reduce mirage and still have good magnification. On a sunny summer day you'll only be able to crank it all the way up in early morning. After that mirage will force you to back it down.

Antimatter said:
I dont reload yet, that will come this summer. But i was told to fire match ammo till i start reloading to get better results when starting out.

a friend of mine also recommended sightron but he said to only get the SIIISS 6-24X50 LRMOA as the reticle is only "true" at 24 magnification on it and the 8-32 model. Is that true?
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On my 4th Sightron.

Honestly don't see the benefit to spending huge dollars on glass when these fill the bill just perfectly fine with great options and durability.

Hopefully they stay at the same price point for years to come.Not cheaping out but you can spend more money on more rifles and scopes this way!!
 
supernova said:
But why in hell would he recommend going with less magnification based on the reticle being true at max power? Just do your conversion for whatever power you're on. You won't want your scope at max power with much mirage so going with more let's you back it down to reduce mirage and still have good magnification. On a sunny summer day you'll only be able to crank it all the way up in early morning. After that mirage will force you to back it down.
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It has something to do with the 6-24 one having 100moa of travel and the 8-32 having only 70moa of travel or something like that. It's all very new to me as im still learning
 
I have a Sightron SIII LR 10-50x60 mildot that works very well for your intended use, and I have Bushnel 6500 3.5-30x50 Tactical in mil that I use for same. I run the SIII at 40-45x and the Bushnell at full 30, almost always. My only complaint with the SIII is the parallax adjustment is very fine, and I don't like the turret covers. I prefer the turret caps on the Bushnell vs the removable covers on the Sightron. It's just my own preference, some might see the covers as a benefit.

I know there are many more scopes in your price range but these are the only two I've "hands on" with, that are suitable.
 
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CyaN1de said:
All variable mag scopes will have a set magnification where the reticle is "true" unless you are using FFP.

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i dont know how much truth is in that statement....

my sightron came with a rather large chart, indicating what each segment was at which magnification all the way up to 32x, not just saying "this is only true for x-power"
 
Vortex viper pst 6-24 X50m the scope was around 1100 if i remember correctly when i purchased it. moa turrets, moa reticle, illuminated reticle, good quality. I'm happy with it.
 
dastt said:
i dont know how much truth is in that statement....

my sightron came with a rather large chart, indicating what each segment was at which magnification all the way up to 32x, not just saying "this is only true for x-power"
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I own a Vortex Viper PA 6.5-20x50 with a Mildot reticle.

To properly evaluate distance using the Mildot reticle , the magnification of my scope should be set to 14x as recommended by Vortex.

Once your distance is measured you can switch to whatever magnification you prefer.

No need for a chart here.

FFP scopes have the advantage of a constant magnification ratio / reticle size which permit to evaluate distance correctly at any magnification you choose.

Disavantage of this is that : at higher magnification a very small target can possibly be hided by the bigger reticle . ( in comparaison of a fine crosshair of a target scope )
 
And with a simple conversion you can range at any power. For example ranging on 7x the target would read twice as large across the reticle. Divide your reading by 2 and calculate.

BlackHorn said:
I own a Vortex Viper PA 6.5-20x50 with a Mildot reticle.

To properly evaluate distance using the Mildot reticle , the magnification of my scope should be set to 14x as recommended by Vortex.

Once your distance is measured you can switch to whatever magnification you prefer.

No need for a chart here.

FFP scopes have the advantage of a constant magnification ratio / reticle size which permit to evaluate distance correctly at any magnification you choose.

Disavantage of this is that : at higher magnification a very small target can possibly be hided by the bigger reticle . ( in comparaison of a fine crosshair of a target scope )
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3 Sightrons from Jerry and very happy . 6 x 24 x 50 , two are mil/moa , and the other is moa/moa . I looked at Vortex but got turned off by guys all over the net who were astounded by Vortex warranty . So many were so happy that when something screwed up they had a new scope that day or within days . You never hear or read that about Sightron , and that sold me .
 
I'll vote for the Vortex Viper PST FFP in either MOA or Mil, whichever method you prefer. I just put the new 2.5-10x32 FFP MOA on my m700 AAC 300 Blackout and it's great so far. I also own a Viper HS LR w/ FFP XLR reticle on a Savage 9 twist 223 and its amazed me so far out to 750 yards. I've become a huge Vortex optics fan
 
I highly recommend you get a Horrus or mil-dot sight and ballistics app for iphone/ipad and learn to use it. I just watched this video series about 5 times over. Its amazing how important the math is. Learn to 'True' whatever you run. Practice, but learn when you practice. Take your time, save money by not spending as many rounds.

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Personally I picked the vortex viper PST 6-24 Mil/Mil FFP. If Sightron had a FFP it would've been a much tougher choice, but that was a feature I really wanted. I've got two PST's and a SPARC red dot and all have been an excellent value for the money.
 
I own a Sightron SIII 6-24x50 and a Nightforce 5.5-22x56 and when it comes to optical clarity and definition there isn't much difference. The NF has a little wider FOV and is built like a tank but I don't know if it's twice as good considering it's more than twice the cost.
If you have a $1000 budget I don't think you can go wrong with the Sightron. Jerry is that confident for a reason, I bought mine from him and he was excellent to deal with and the shipping was fast. I think Sightron is probably the best scope for the money out there.
I also have a Bushnell 6500 series 2.5-16x42 and considering it was only $200 less than the Sightron I would never buy another. The Sightron is in a whole different category as far as I'm concerned. My 6500 just got moved to my 10/22 if that tells you what I think of it. Great for a Bushnell but nowhere near the level of the others.
I have only looked through a Vortex in a store so I'm not sure what they are like in the field but it did look good in the store.

Good luck
 
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