1000th "my first gun" thread...but more specific I hope!

Iam another fella that will warn you not to get all caught up in the WSM hipe, because as stated here many times it all about gun and ammo manufacturers making money by recreating the wheel.

If you want a 270 buy an ordinary Win. 270. Two main reasons,the ammo is cheaper and more readily available, and you gain nothing in performance when the bullet comes out the end of the barrel.

And like previously mentioned check out the Wichester M-70's and the Ruger M-77's, as you will get more rifle features that will really matter to you for less money than what your looking at. Check out Epps web site. A used M-70 for example in 30-06 will cost you in the $650 range. A new M-70 in featherweight will cost you $790 for standard 270 and $826 for a 270 WSM !!!. Epps has alot of 270 WSM in stock and few if any standard 270's as the standard 270's he can't keep in stock. Now is that little fact telling you anything.

Iam partial to M-70's as Iam been shooting them for 43 yrs. But there are many fine rifles out there to choose from. But I would say again to stay away from the WSM hipe as you will not gain anything on the 270's performance, but you will gain in money saved everytime you shoot it.

You asked for our adivise and our opinion's, so you got it, and I as many others here it is based on years of experience.
 
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you will not be undergunned with a .270 win and it is a great cartridge. I advise anyone who says a 270 win vs wsm is a marginal performance gain to check out ballistics for factory ammo. Federal factory ammunition shows at least 200fps advantage for the wsm in all weights, that is not marginal. Wal-mart and Canadian tire both stock 270wsm as do all gun shops, there is no problem finding ammo. Muzzle energy for 150 grain bullets in wsm 3200ftlbs vs 2667ftlbs in 270 win. If you are concerned about an extra 50 dollars for the rifle and 10 dollars extra a box than by all means go for the 270 win but if performance is the goal wsm is clearly superior.
 
I'd go with the 7mm-08. For eastern deer and coyotes it really is all you need, and it will pay you back with less expensive ammo, a lighter gun to carry and milder recoil. I won't say you'd be nuts to go with the two Brownings, but they are overpowered for your purposes.
 
Not to stir the pot too much but how stuck are you on your choice of brand? For a do it all, reliable, take anywhere gun you should really have a look at a vanguard series 2, possibly stainless steel like this one. http://www.weatherby.com/product/rifles/vanguard_2/series_2_stainless Most people will agree with me that you get a LOT of rifle for your money with these. Especially with the guaranteed MOA with premium ammunition, they shoot nice with pretty much everything. A lot of people will agree they are one of the best built rifles for what you spend. And you'll probably get it a lot cheaper than what their MSRP is. That extra money can go towards some nice glass.
 
I would go with the .308 and the X-bolt. There isn't really much you couldn't take down with a .308 and you'll save money compared to .300 and 7mm calibers. The X-bolt is easily one of the nicest rifles out there these day's. Lot's of features and better fit and finish you may not find on campareable priced rifles like a Remy. The Duratouch stocks are great for hunting too as even wet they grip extremely well.
 
Hi guys.
Wow....I really appreciate the ongoing feedback. As it turns out I got my gun. I left right after my last post (about 12 or 1 today). It's funny how in my absence you folks nailed what would happen.
Went in for the .270wsm and was all ready to do the deal and then got to really thinking about the ammo price. Lots of guys in there to give me advice and I had the handydandy blackberry there to pull some data. Long story short...

Savage 114 American Classic, 270 Win, Wood / Blued, with Accutrigger (a really beautiful walnut stock, smooth action...really happy with the fit and feel)
Bushnell Elite 3200 4-12x40

So now who wants to tell me what factory ammo to send down the pipe? Ideally I'd like to zero it with a single round suitable for moose and deer (and just HAMMER coyotes with it I guess) and then not screw around as I understand I need to re-zero everytime I change ammo...and I don't belong to a range so that's tough right now. All my practice will be day trips to buddy's place a ways off.

Thanks again guys.
 
Do you reload?

Federal premium with the 150 partition works well on deer, moose and any other north american animal that is legal to hunt with the 270, then for cyote and varmit just run the cheap federal blue box.

You won't salvage any coyote hides with a 270 anyway lol.
 
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