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I've had a bit of an itch for a few years now for the 10mm. I don't know why, since even full throttle 45ACP in a 1911 gets bothersome in under 100 rounds

But it's an itch that appears to need scratching.


I've shot the Glock, and I've owned a large frame Glock in 45, and I do not like the large frame glock, being as it feels like a lump of lumber.


I like the SiG 220, but at close on 2 grand, it's out of my comfort zone.


There's the Remington, which the Internet tells me isn't made by Para on old Para tooling (and so is assumed to be better). Not sure if I fancy a long slide, but it's an option.

The Delta Elite is too much for what it is - $1600 and you don't even get an adjustable sight on it.


I'm slowly whittling down to two realistic options - RIA and Grand Power


Has anyone tried a Grand Power P40L (the short barrel one seems pointless when I want to reload for greater than 40S&W velocities)

OR an RIA/Armscor TAC Ultra FS (single stack)?

I'm a bit hesitant on the Philippine gun - I've had 3 SAMs and been grossly disappointed in all of them, but I've never had an RIA and do not know if they are made to the same "standard" or not

Grand Power has had my interest for a few years, due to its interesting mechanics, but I don't need another 9mm. I don't know how the P40 feels in the hand, as compared to a Glock. No backstraps for that one either.


This is just for informal target shooting. I don't compete, and I have no intentions of going pistol pig hunting in the US. I just want something that's going to shoot straighter than I can, has a good trigger, feels good in the hand, and is going to stand up to some fairly stout loads, because why would I buy a 10 to load like 40S&W?
 
Just my opinion but 10mm is a pretty stout round esp if you choose to load it past current factory offerings ( which I agree is pretty darn weak).

My personal preference is to buy a quality and known quantity gun like the SIG, Glock, Delta Elites etc. that you've mentioned. Or find a unicorn 610 revolver. They are all expensive for sure but at least you know they are not going to blow up in your hands if you follow the rules.

It's one of those calibers that you really have to pay to play.
 
Shot a few Grand Powers a few weeks back at our club. I really liked the 10mm, don't remember which gun it was exactly but me and my wife both liked it. Can't justify the cost though. The 45acp jammed on my wife and we both hated the Excalibur.
 
With patience or luck you may be able to find a 1006 or 1076 etc. They are probably one of the most robust 10mm ever made and sit around $800-1000 used. I sold mine for some stupid reason a few years ago. Another regret...
 
I own two 10 mm, the Glock 20 and the Sig P220. Both very nice guns, but the Sig P220 if a phenomenal gun. Big and heavy but tames the recoil significantly on heavier loads.

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My Grand Power p40 has run flawlessly

Have shot everything from American eagle, blazer and rem UMC all the way up to buffalo bore outdoorsman and federal premium jsp rounds.
 
I know it is not really in the running but just to clarify - the Remington is the same gun as the Para. Not actually a bad thing in this particular case. I had the Para for awhile and was surprised how much I liked it. They have a big following in the US for hunting for obvious reasons: the longslide helps maximize the 10mms performance with longer sight radius, higher velocity, a little more front-end weight to help with recoil and quick followups, but also Para/Rem use a fully supported chamber so you can load up, some MIM parts are used and finishing is average to keep costs down but forged slide and frame so reportedly quite durable, the gun is reliable and more than accurate enough for longer shots in capable hands, and unlike the Nighthawk, you won't cry if it get banged up a little.

Although I've never been a fan of Grand Powers for various reasons of personal preference, they do seem to have a dedicated following and are a reasonably priced alternative to the Glock. If the others are more than what you are looking to spend for a range toy, I would second the recommendation of a used Smith 1006 etc, but they are definitely starting to creep up in price.
 
Cheers. I forgot about Smiths, and really know nothing about them.

I have a 220 match in 45 and it's a stout hunk of steel. Great gun, but it came from a good friend rather more affordably than a new one will be

If I was to truly pay to play, I think I'd go SiG...

It's nothing that I need desperately - it's an itch, and I can wait for the right pistol to scratch it.
 
I think you answered your own question. You've brought up the SIG 220 twice with nice things to say and see at least one problem with all the others. You indicate that the 220 is financially feasible, just not comfortable, but that you can wait for the right gun. Keep saving for the SIG; you'll second guess anything else you've mentioned. Wait for sale's or find a vendor with stock and make an offer you are comfortable with. I've been surprised at the number of vendors willing to negotiate within 10% of asking.
 
beltfed said:
Did you swap extractors too?
Can you just swap from the 45 to 10mm with barrel alone?
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I have only swapped the barrel. I know that the ejector is the same for both G21 and G20 models. Extractors are different, so my brass flies out less consistently in the same direction than then when I am shooting .45 as intended from the G21. But it always comes out.
One more detail, cause it is not the barrel alone, you need the right magazines as well.
 
The only down side with the Sig 220 10mm, is that the mags won't slide in easily without depressing the mag release. This is because they designed them to hold the heavier bullets. I found mine works well with 220 .45 mags just as well, and they do not have that issue.
 
TT1900 said:
I think you answered your own question. You've brought up the SIG 220 twice with nice things to say and see at least one problem with all the others. You indicate that the 220 is financially feasible, just not comfortable, but that you can wait for the right gun. Keep saving for the SIG; you'll second guess anything else you've mentioned. Wait for sale's or find a vendor with stock and make an offer you are comfortable with. I've been surprised at the number of vendors willing to negotiate within 10% of asking.
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I've never tried negotiating on a new gun. Worth a shot. Epps has a 220 listed. They're the only vendor that I've found one at..

If the 45ACP mags work, as another poster mentioned, I'm even ahead of the game!
 
Mark-II said:
If the 45ACP mags work, as another poster mentioned, I'm even ahead of the game!
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Yes, along with Tom Morrison, I can also confirm the 45acp mags work well. Some of the guys in the US have put a lot of rounds through their P220 10mm guns using their .45 mags with no issues at all.
 
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