12 16 qnd 20 guage with 3/4 oz loads

In this country i think the 24g loading is the least weight in 12ga that im aware of which is just below 7/8oz if i remember my conversions correctly. Other side of the atlantic you can find 22gram loads

I use light 12ga loads but generally in heavier choked guns. Most of my sxs are fixed f/m however i know they break targets from cylinder bores well on the skeet field. Even my 1/2oz 12ga loads work well but some shooters tease me about the amount of confedie that my loads disperse
 
3macs1 said:
?? Not sure what is understood?? in your comments. You are saying the larger the barrel diameter the better the pattern period and no choke the best pattern
This is what you are saying and that is NOT the case with the 3/4 oz . In fact your comment all else being equal would be the same choke also would it not
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I think it's a generally accepted concept that the same size shot, in the same amount, accelerated at the same rate to the same speed, will pattern better out of a larger diameter barrel. ie 1 oz out of a 12 gauge will pattern better than 1 oz out of a 20, all else being equal. The inference is that the less dense mass of shot/interference from barrel walls, the better the pattern.

Don't assume anything shoot some paper with them all and let us know what you see
What I have seen in 3/4oz, is the 28ga patterns better than the 12ga . I firmly believe the shot stack height of the 28ga gives it a tighter pattern and a longer shot string
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So now the square load theory is wrong and the opposite is true ?
 
Westward1 said:
So now the square load theory is wrong and the opposite is true ?
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We are talking 3/4 oz here and some reading for you


Shoot the 3/4 all on paper in every gauge and tell me what you see
Cheers

Not my words

Oftentimes, we hear people sing praises of the so-called "square load". What IS a square load?

Well, it hearkens back to black powder and muzzle-loading days, when a load in the chamber (powder, wad height, and shot column) were each supposed to be the same height as the bore diameter. This is the so-called "square load", and it LOOKED that way when loaded in a barrel in a cross-sectional drawing.

People refer to this today without realizing it, but with modern powders and wads, a "square" load is not really possible.

Moderate, highly efficient (near optimum) loads are exemplified by the 3/4 ounce 28 gauge load, 7/8 ounce 20 gauge load, 1 ounce 16 gauge load and 1-1/8 ounce 12 gauge load.
 
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One would presume it is a given that more choke is needed with the 3/4 oz load to maintain a tight 40yd pattern more so in the 12 gauge The 3/4 load isn't better than the standard loads per gauge but it gives you a soft shooting economical option As for gauges I like and shoot them all
 
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warzaw said:
One would presume it is a given that more choke is needed with the 3/4 oz load to maintain a tight 40yd pattern more so in the 12 gauge The 3/4 load isn't better than the standard loads per gauge but it gives you a soft shooting economical option As for gauges I like and shoot them all
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IM in mine :) and a lot less than 40 yards :)
Cheers
 
Suther said:
I thought a longer shot string is not considering a good thing?
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I share what I have seen with my guns and loads and my opinion others say what they believe and I have shared that also
But keep poking :). I honestly could not careless I have developed and tested on paper what I need years ago in every gauge for my guns and chokes to take me happily to my grave with acceptable patterns and if it is 3/4 oz I want to shoot it will always be a 28ga for me
Some say they do it in a 12ga to reduce recoil most I know do it to try to save reloading costs and don't own a 28ga
To each their own

Cheers
 
warzaw said:
Joe watch the blood pressure . I love my 28 's Mac they are a easy to love.
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Funny you mention that. 6 years ago went blind for 4 months after ruptured optic nerves pressure was recorded at 260/160 :( Doc says a miracle the vision came back and pills take care of it now
Sorry Just real tired from planting for the last two weeks every day . Like 35,000 flowers we do every spring with the wife's greenhouse business and 16,000 to go :(.Retirement she calls it :( BS never worked so hard not to mention it is still dam winter here like minus 6 last night and three oil furnaces running :(
Cheers
 
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Yes I still have his book
I have not tried 3/4 oz loads in a 12 ga but in the 80’-90’s
Busted a lot of targets off the 16 yard line with 7/8 oz @
1100 FPS
I now only shoot a few rounds a year so not a big deal what I use . We use to have 500 bird singles marathons that when I started loading the 7/8 oz loads
I will have to load some 3/4 oz and give them a try time to dust off the old model 12
 
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warzaw said:
Joe watch the blood pressure . I love my 28 's Mac they are a easy to love.
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I hate them LOL
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The reason i bought my first 28ga was because beretta made the a400 xplor in one. I use the 28 when i want to carry a lighter gun. I still prefer 20ga but will eventually buy a high grade double in 28ga. Each gauge has its merits
 
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