12 Ga for Sporting Clay's around $1000 CAD

I guess reading AND writing for comprehension is not a strong point with some. Some of this made-up nonsense is almost worth the entertainment value.

I've had five 1100s or 11-87s over the years. I picked up the first one cheap because the owner couldn't get it to cycle anything but magnums. It was just dirty. Once cleaned, it, along with the others, worked flawlessly.
 
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I just wish people would start tossing those junk AA hulls in the trash cans :)
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I have had bad batches of light 8s AA before likely you have seen at some point since 1963 lots that are not quite right form any manufacturer. As a disclaimer of course as a rule all premium shells are outstanding federal was likely the best not so today, hard to get in my area but have shot a few to say the least.

In America you can still stomp on federal once fired papers at most any trap shoot between posts. I don’t toss my AA or STS on the ground either unless I have to, but plenty of people do at shoots.

I will never have the experience as you of course with the 1100 choosing to go a much different route with shotguns. Each to there own.

The 1100 does make a good single shot though.
 
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I have had bad batches of light 8s AA before likely you have seen at some point since 1963 lots that are not quite right form any manufacturer. As a disclaimer of course as a rule all premium shells are outstanding federal was likely the best not so today, hard to get in my area but have shot a few to say the least.

In America you can still stomp on federal once fired papers at most any trap shoot between posts. I don’t toss my AA or STS on the ground either unless I have to, but plenty of people do at shoots.

I will never have the experience as you of course with the 1100 choosing to go a much different route with shotguns. Each to there own.

The 1100 does make a good single shot though.
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BS is all that comment is.Pick any one of mine.I dare you .Then stand in front of me and I will fire the first shot into the ground, then the next two I will pull the trigger twice with the barrel on your big toe and then tell me what a nice singe shot they are. No worries it is just a single shot RIGHT so nothing will happen
What not confident enough to do that but sure can make a BS statement to the effect. It comes across that you are just a fart all air no substance and no experience shooting 1100. Honestly Cabelas counter stories about 1100's is not experience just old stories 90% BS

And what route could you have went in shot guns that I didnot with my dad owning a gun shop in those days. I seen your pic so you are about the same age so could only have be exposed to what was out there during those years. I would love to hear your routeB]. For me I started shooting skeet/trap with 870 4 ga sets , then 1100 4ga sets, some superx1, 101 sets, browning 4 barrel sets, Bt99, and finished with k32, tubes etc
I grew up hunting with model 12's and models 21's my grandfathers guns which I still have
I stopped buying/ collecting shotguns a couple of years ago and still own well over 100 of all makes and models, over 30 in 28ga alone. Lets see in semi shotguns what do I still have here
Super x 1,2 and 3, remington 1148, 1100, 1187 , sp-10 and had a versa max which I hated and sold as well as all of the mossy's the 9200 was pure junk , A5, gold,silver, maxus, a400, franchi, weatherby off the top of my head so owned and have shot a few different models

And guess what there is nothing wrong with a 1100 doing what it was designed to do in the right hands which seem to be few here
One that can take it and clean it and replace the odd piece in 10 minutes which never happens with some

On the hulls there are always going to be a bad batch number regardless who makes them I have had bad sts and federals also but when you make millions and millions a year that will happen. Over all the old AA compression form hulls are still one of the best ever produced especially the black 12ga and YES color does make a difference as far as number of reloads goes. Just like the gold rem nitro 27's will out last a sts
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Every one remembers the times their 1100 broke, hardly anyone talks about all the times it didn't ! Lots of people won lots of championships with 1100's, I wonder how they did that if they were always broken. If you told me that I'd have to change the piston and O-ring and maybe a lifter spring or two over the course of 20K rounds then I'd be a happy camper and satisfied with the gun. All brands break and all require maintenance.

Many people with a Perazzi carry a second trigger group as well as an assortment of springs but I don't see anyone here calling the MX2000 a "1000" because it only works 1/2 of the time !!!

As for the Cabela's stories, here's two: last fall a guy came to the range with his new gun in caliber .243 Winchester (bought from Cabela's Ottawa) and 5 boxes of ammo. After 2 boxes he couldn't hit the paper and asked the counter guy at the range to take a look. You would have loved to see his face when he was told "your barrel is marked .308 Winchester" (I was there so I know this is a true story)!! Someone at the Ottawa store also recommended that a new shotgun owner just remove his modified choke to shoot skeet with his new Mossberg. Not "replace it with a skeet choke", just, remove it and shoot with no choke (I was there for this one too). Not everyone at the Ottawa gun counter is an idiot, but at least one of them IS .....
 
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BS is all that comment is.Pick any one of mine.I dare you .Then stand in front of me and I will fire the first shot into the ground, then the next two I will pull the trigger twice with the barrel on your big toe and then tell me what a nice singe shot they are. No worries it is just a single shot RIGHT so nothing will happen
What not confident enough to do that but sure can make a BS statement to the effect. It comes across that you are just a fart all air no substance and no experience shooting 1100. Honestly Cabelas counter stories about 1100's is not experience just old stories 90% BS

And what route could you have went in shot guns that I didnot with my dad owning a gun shop in those days. I seen your pic so you are about the same age so could only have be exposed to what was out there during those years. I would love to hear your routeB]. For me I started shooting skeet/trap with 870 4 ga sets , then 1100 4ga sets, some superx1, 101 sets, browning 4 barrel sets, Bt99, and finished with k32, tubes etc
I grew up hunting with model 12's and models 21's my grandfathers guns which I still have
I stopped buying/ collecting shotguns a couple of years ago and still own well over 100 of all makes and models, over 30 in 28ga alone. Lets see in semi shotguns what do I still have here
Super x 1,2 and 3, remington 1148, 1100, 1187 , sp-10 and had a versa max which I hated and sold as well as all of the mossy's the 9200 was pure junk , A5, gold,silver, maxus, a400, franchi, weatherby off the top of my head so owned and have shot a few different models

And guess what there is nothing wrong with a 1100 doing what it was designed to do in the right hands which seem to be few here
One that can take it and clean it and replace the odd piece in 10 minutes which never happens with some

On the hulls there are always going to be a bad batch number regardless who makes them I have had bad sts and federals also but when you make millions and millions a year that will happen. Over all the old AA compression form hulls are still one of the best ever produced especially the black 12ga and YES color does make a difference as far as number of reloads goes. Just like the gold rem nitro 27's will out last a sts
Cheers
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How much gun counter sales experience do you have?
 
JIMMY 808 said:
How much gun counter sales experience do you have?
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Oh I touched a sore spot sorry but you asked for it
LOL Well considering my dad owned a gun shop and repaired them in the 60's and 70's do you think I should have to answer that plus what does that have to do with knowing and shooting 1100's . We never fired any behind the counter :)
Man some of us don't age well it seems.My knowledge on modern handguns, rifles etc lacks for sure today since I have not kept up with it but my love for shotguns runs deep and still does
Lets see in the shop was not a job in my house growing up it was every free minute you had if you wanted to eat and have a dry bed not to mention at that age I loved it. I can still hear that dam door bell clanging
He started me on shotguns around 8 and I reloaded my first Imperial paper round at the same time on the old gear I call it and haven't stopped, In fact sold some of it as shown to a member here who was looking for some since I rarely use this type any more you won't find that at cabelas :)
AA and my first MEC was not much after. LOL so been around AA and 1100's a long time. My home was not a normal canadian household . My dad was a yank so you paid NRA before you paid the church and if you didnot there was no hunting and shooting for you. Sure wish some of that old american logic would spread in canada we sure need it

So can I pull the trigger on my single shot 1100 on your toe or not LOL by the counter is fine if that is where you are comfortable :)
Here is two of my favorite 1100's I own and I have two sets of these. This one has the better wood and the 410 is unfired A matched set of 1100 410/28ga skeet. The other set is shot to death and still going

Cheers

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3macs1 said:
Oh I touched a sore spot sorry but you asked for it
LOL Well considering my dad owned a gun shop and repaired them in the 60's and 70's do you think I should have to answer that plus what does that have to do with knowing and shooting 1100's . We never fired any behind the counter :)
Man some of us don't age well it seems.My knowledge on modern handguns, rifles etc lacks for sure today since I have not kept up with it but my love for shotguns runs deep and still does
Lets see in the shop was not a job in my house growing up it was every free minute you had if you wanted to eat and have a dry bed not to mention at that age I loved it. I can still hear that dam door bell clanging
He started me on shotguns around 8 and I reloaded my first Imperial paper round at the same time on the old gear I call it and haven't stopped, In fact sold some of it as shown to a member here who was looking for some since I rarely use this type any more you won't find that at cabelas :)
AA and my first MEC was not much after. LOL so been around AA and 1100's a long time. My home was not a normal canadian household . My dad was a yank so you paid NRA before you paid the church and if you didnot there was no hunting and shooting for you. Sure wish some of that old american logic would spread in canada we sure need it

So can I pull the trigger on my single shot 1100 on your toe or not LOL by the counter is fine if that is where you are comfortable :)
Here is two of my favorite 1100's I own and I have two sets of these. This one has the better wood and the 410 is unfired A matched set of 1100 410/28ga skeet. The other set is shot to death and still going

Cheers

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I would like it if you didn’t point a loaded or unloaded anything at me a pull the trigger. I personally don’t dislike anyone that much, on a topic change...

Not a lot of those tools around any more.
 
JIMMY 808 said:
I would like it if you didn’t point a loaded or unloaded anything at me a pull the trigger. I personally don’t dislike anyone that much, on a topic change...

Not a lot of those tools around any more.
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What are you talking about it has nothing to do with dislike it was just a comment to show you if a 1100 is a true single shot as you quote it would not be a problem after the first round is fired nothing more.
You know I read here all the time about the 1100 is dead etc etc yet I could not believe it a couple of years ago what do they reintroduce these for them
I had to wait a year to get some since they kept selling out so someone out there is still shooting the 1100
Yes you don't see those tools being used today but that is where my roots are just like I don't find too many into shotgun reloading like we were /are. Still I think over 20 machines if we added them all up from full sets of Jr's, sizemasters and 9000 G even in 16ga.
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I just looked, not a single one of the 1100's listed on the EE are listed as single shots (or as a 550 for that matter)!!!!!!! Who's not telling the truth ?
 
Rynnik said:
I like 1100s just fine, but my goodness, I don't like any brand enough to get 3macs1 mad about it.
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LOL Mad not even close :)
Just hate those quacking about something they have not even dipped their feet in the water with let alone earned their tail feathers shooting.
There is nothing wrong even today with someone new to the sport buying one to get them started IMO as long as it fits them
They played a very important part in the evolution of the shooting sports and are still being used so don't deserve the BS from those that have no idea. I remember first shooting mine in the mid 60's after a pump for years it was like WOW where is the recoil gone

To me just like some here saying all remington is junk. Well they sure were not before the mid 80's that is for sure. I still have not taken a rifle like my old BDL 700's out of a box and grouped with factory ammo the way they did. Junk I may add I can sell in less than 3 hours so their must be some good in them
They will die with me
Honestly in 410, 28ga and 16ga if I want to shoot a semi yep I grab a 1100, in 10ga and 12ga semi I grab golds or x3 . The sp-10 is another old remington battle axe that I think one could never clean and run it over and it would still work just fine. The golds like to be clean all the time or mine do

LOL yes sir they were the days when the two most important things in your wallet were a condom and a spare 1100 o-ring :) and really I never needed either one very often :(
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Wow one 1100, 2000 rounds and even better crap AA loads LOL. How about 100,000 rounds plus through one or more and then maybe we can compare
Any bit of credibility you may have had is gone now after the AA comment.
I am sorry but I have never seen a crap AA load both the vintage design or the new HS and have been buying flats of them since the mid 60's
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First off I'll explain what " and " mean as written.
They are what are called quotation marks, as in something someone else has said.

Most kids with grade 6 or better know this but carry on.........

Here's an example........"My shotgun doesn't work with these crap Double A target loads!!!"
That's what is called a quote.......got it?

Here again is my post if you would care to read it and it is a direct quote.

"There are a lot of new shooters each year that try sporting clays for the first time.
They take the shotgun they've used before with field loads and suddenly find it doesn't work with those "crap" Double A type loads supplied by the range.
Each time this has happened we have talked to the squad ahead of us and encouraged the shooter to switch to someone else's gun that will double consistently."

I chose Double A's as an example because they are quite likely the best ,most easily recognized example of the most common trap/skeet/sporting load .
If it makes you feel better you can substitute Kent or Federal or Remington .
Every one works 99.99999 percent of the time.

Each time a semi auto malfunctions the blame seems to fall on the ammunition although for the most part it's the gun.

Regarding your claim of 100,000 rounds through your 1100......is that 10,000 rounds per year for the last 10 years.......or 5000 rounds per year the last 20.......or 2500 the last 40?

Seriously you are either a terrible shot or you should be on our Olympic team.


Cheers to you too.
 
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