12 guage life cycle
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Replacing parts? Anywhere from 0 rounds to infinity.
I know my Citori has likely seen 4000-5000 before I got it and at least a few thousand since, I barely even clean it. My Browning Gold has seen a few thousand. I had a Rem 1100 that I figure had close to half a million through it between a few guys that owned it. I never replaced a part (other than o rings) but the guy after me had to replace an extractor. And the current owner loves it.
I have had a Rem 870 that needed warranty work with less than a box through it.
I know my Citori has likely seen 4000-5000 before I got it and at least a few thousand since, I barely even clean it. My Browning Gold has seen a few thousand. I had a Rem 1100 that I figure had close to half a million through it between a few guys that owned it. I never replaced a part (other than o rings) but the guy after me had to replace an extractor. And the current owner loves it.
I have had a Rem 870 that needed warranty work with less than a box through it.
Calum said:I've never taken my Mavericks bolt assembly apart to clean it.
I just wipe out the barrel with some break free, and relube the moving parts, and that's it.
Compared to my other firearms I find it a refreshing change.
This is all I do as well, I used to feel like I was neglecting pump shotguns for not stripping them down. A few years of Calums method and 0 issues put my mind at ease.
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allmost 20,000 in one of my marine magnum 870,s and nothing wrong with it yet.
7,000 in one of my wingmasters that was well used when i got it
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7,000 in one of my wingmasters that was well used when i got it
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It depends on the gun, the shells and how the gun is cared for. You can't however "shoot out" a shotgun barrel unless you are mistreating it in some fashion.
I'm a high volume shooter. In one currently owned o/u I've got over 50 thousand rounds through it and it's just nicely broken in. I did have to replace a trigger spring but it's a leaf spring and a simple repair. I swapped it out between stations.
Another gun I had was well over the 100k mark between me and the previous owner(s) before it needed a new locking lug. I've seen lots of guns past the 100,000 mark without the need to replace parts.
Semi-autos in my experience need parts replaced sooner. A friend of mine has a Beretta 390 that needed some parts replacement around the 35 thousand mark. Pumps are probably the most durable. I've shot tens of thousands of rounds through them and never had to replace anything.
I'm a high volume shooter. In one currently owned o/u I've got over 50 thousand rounds through it and it's just nicely broken in. I did have to replace a trigger spring but it's a leaf spring and a simple repair. I swapped it out between stations.
Another gun I had was well over the 100k mark between me and the previous owner(s) before it needed a new locking lug. I've seen lots of guns past the 100,000 mark without the need to replace parts.
Semi-autos in my experience need parts replaced sooner. A friend of mine has a Beretta 390 that needed some parts replacement around the 35 thousand mark. Pumps are probably the most durable. I've shot tens of thousands of rounds through them and never had to replace anything.
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Most of my shotguns are between 80 & 125 years old, and to the best of my knowledge have ad no major mechanical parts replaced.
My Beretta 391 had at least 10k rounds through it, was only dissasembled & cleaned if caught in a significant rain or snow fall, and never had a hic-up.
I expect mine to outlast me!
Mark
My Beretta 391 had at least 10k rounds through it, was only dissasembled & cleaned if caught in a significant rain or snow fall, and never had a hic-up.
I expect mine to outlast me!
Mark
Then make sure you don't tell her this. If you acquire a severe clay target addiction no matter how much your gun costs you WILL eventually spend more than its purchase price on shells and targets. I know I have.4string said:
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4 String : (Bass Player ?)
... you're going down a slippery slope from which you'll never recover. Don't even try to "justify" price ... just wait till you want the next more expensive one ... or another one - then what ???
Have a look in her closet .... see more than 10 pair of shoes ? Does she have to justify all those shoes to you ???
... you're going down a slippery slope from which you'll never recover. Don't even try to "justify" price ... just wait till you want the next more expensive one ... or another one - then what ???
Have a look in her closet .... see more than 10 pair of shoes ? Does she have to justify all those shoes to you ???
My kreighoff has had hundreds of thousands of rounds through it and I have never replaced a part, I've heard that it is possible to wear out a shotgun barrel ,even using lead shot, I think it would depend on the type of steel used, smoothness, cleaning technique, etc.
I had a 70's era Krieghoff Model 32 of similar high mileage. The barrels can wear but not as you might think. The K-guns can go off the face because of wear between the hinge pin and the barrel trunnions. The good news is that Krieghoff has the best service of any of the major makers and they can make it like new for a very reasonable price.ben hunchak said:
A buddy that attended a trap shoot with me a couple weeks ago had an old 870 that he was using. It was filthy so I suggested I take it home and clean it for him as it was stiff to cycle. I don't think it has EVER been apart, the grime that was caked on was unbelievable !! This must be a 1950's vintage or there abouts, so who knows how many thousands of rounds have gone through it, how many previous owners it had, all I know is it was the dirtiest gun I have ever cleaned, but it was still working fine other than being a little stiff.
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ben hunchak said:
Wow, that is impressive even for a Krieghoff. They recommend regular service which involves adjustments and sometimes requires new parts.
I've had 3 breakdowns on my Beretta 687 over what I'd guess would be 250000 rounds of ammo. All either in a competition or hours before
. 1 broken extractor. Borrowed a spare part from a fellow competetor (gotta love that about this sport) and completed my round an hour or so later.
1 hammer spring guide nut that spun off the hammer spring (not really a broken part, but caused me some grief) finished the round as normal but had
a few FTFs.
1 broken trigger spring (might have been a sear spring) Caused me lots of grief, but Jason Spencer was able to fabricate me a new spring on extremely short notice, and I was able to get on the road and make it to the competition on time.
Now as for price justification........... I can't think off too many people who have ever regretted spending more money for a better gun. The initial hit can be difficult to handle, but you'll make out better in the long run (when you decide you should have bought the more expensive gun in the first place)
Brad.
This should be written in stone. I've owned less expensive guns and more expensive guns. I don't regret the more expensive ones but the cheap ones have often caused me no end of grief.bmcrae said:
One of my friends recently was riding me about shooting an expensive shotgun. I shoot a top end o/u while he shoots a Beretta 390 and often outshoots me with it. In response I asked him how much his snowmobile cost, how often he used it and what its current resale value was.
Case closed. And I mean closed.
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beretta boy said:4 String : (Bass Player ?)
... you're going down a slippery slope from which you'll never recover. Don't even try to "justify" price ... just wait till you want the next more expensive one ... or another one - then what ???
Have a look in her closet .... see more than 10 pair of shoes ? Does she have to justify all those shoes to you ???
Yes I am a bass player. I don't really have to justify, but I have bought 3 guns this year and it's only Jan 9th.
