12" L.O.P. stocks and why you use them.

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why put a 12" LOP stock on if your not using body armour? I'm a bit of a larger framed guy, do you think this shorter stock would have any adverse effects?

I'm just interested in why you decided to use a 12". Is it preference or cause you're smaller or cause you can handle it better or what? Let me know your reasoning so i can decide if i should go standard of short LOP on my shotty. BTW its going on a 14" bbl'ed gun for various tasks such as wasting errant zombies and overly disgruntled bears.
 
It's great if you want to slap yourself in the face with your thumb.

I prefer something with a pistol grip on the stock if I need something with a short LOP.

I'm a bit of a larger framed guy, do you think this shorter stock would have any adverse effects?
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Try one before you buy one. I have a Hogue 14" stock on my 870 and and friend had a 12" stock on his. I tried his and like NaOH said got a thumb in the face for my troubles.:eek:
 
To prevent a thumbslap don't grab around the stock, instead put it alongside the stock. I prefer the short LOPs (12 and 13") and I am just under 6' and 200lbs. The gun balances better, it holds a bit closer to the body and the reach to the pump is shorter and faster for me.
Cheers
 
Makes for a handy, small package.


I'm 5'5. I thumb knuckled myself in the nose first shot. After that, you'll know how to hold it and it's great. :D YMMV
 
One of my 870s has a surefire forend and a speedfeed IV-s with the SWAT recoil plate that makes the LOP 12".
The other 870 is also 18", but it has the simple LE forend and a stock butt with a 14" LOP.
The one with the speedfeed and surefire is heavier, but it is easier to keep in the shoulder while reloading.
 
Pte.BiC said:
so basically its useless unless you acctually have a use for it, which i dont, so i think i'll stick with the standard. Thanks
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So you really didn't have a question as much as an opinion?

There are these neat inventions called adjustable stocks...this is why folks in the military use them, they are very handy. :D
 
I don't currently have any of them fancy "black shotguns" But I am relatively short at around 5'7" my gunshave all been chopped to 13.5" or thereabouts. They suit me, my wifes guns are around 12.5 and I cannot shoot them, thumb in the nose etc.
It is all about personal preference. I cannot shoot any factory shotguns with a warm coat.
 
madtrapper143 said:
My police service uses short stocked 870's because we wear body armour and require the short LOP. I think this is reason for most short stocked shotguns.

Darryl
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As well as short statured officers or officers with shorter arms
 
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Short LOP shotties

I use my 12in LOP short 870 when hunting in a heavy winter coat and it mounts and shoulders without hanging up on the coat as well as fits better with the extra material between me and the gun.

The 12in LOP is a ##### to shoot without a heavy coat or body armour though!
It does lend itself to faster rapid pumping though as mentioned.




So I show up on the trap field with a 12in LOP 14in bbl bayonet mounted 870 and look around and say......What???...LOL
 
I suspect those that are complaining of getting their thumb in the nose are not using the short stock in a proper fighting stance as it is meant to be. If you use a traditional hold, where the body is bladed to the target, you probably will catch a thumb.

However, if you use what is commonly called a fighting stance, ie. body more squared-off to the target (like you are shooting a handgun in an isocoles stance). It's also the same stance that is almost universally used in CQB-style shooting with M4 carbines, etc. It will feel a little awkward at first, but it will grow on you. I'm 6'2"/250 and haven't caught a thumb yet with my 12" LOP stock while using an aggressive fighting stance (and yes, that's without body armour on) - and I don't get the butt snagging at my clothing when I bring it up to the shoulder anymore, either. If that doesn't work, I guarantee that you won't catch a thumb if one places it on the right side of the stock.
 
jaycee said:
I suspect those that are complaining of getting their thumb in the nose are not using the short stock in a proper fighting stance as it is meant to be. If you use a traditional hold, where the body is bladed to the target, you probably will catch a thumb.
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Perhaps. And if you do nothing else with a shotgun learning a specific and different stance and hold for tactical reasons might have some merit.

But I am going to shoot thousands more rounds at targets and hunting. In a stress situation I don't want to have a gun that is radically different than what I'm familiar with. I use pretty much the same hold for all of my shotguns and is why my farm gun has a 14" LOP stock which is only slightly shorter than my other guns. The 12" LOP guns and the fullstock/pistol grip guns feel awkward to me because they are different that whan I'm used to. If I need shorter I have a 14" barrel for my 870.
 
Claybuster said:
Perhaps. And if you do nothing else with a shotgun learning a specific and different stance and hold for tactical reasons might have some merit.
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Perhaps, but the original question was "12" L.O.P. stocks and why you use them". A fighting stance isn't just good for tactical reasons, it has much merit whether you're fighting something with 4 legs or two, or just hunting some critter. I find I use a fighting stance when I hunt now as well, and it's just as effective in that role as it is in a tactical one; lets not fall into the trap of thinking that this stance is only good for tactical purposes, as it is much more than that, it is an all-round stance that will serve people well in almost any discipline. The only type of shooting that I can see a fighting stance possibly not being well suited for is trap/skeet.

Claybuster said:
But I am going to shoot thousands more rounds at targets and hunting. In a stress situation I don't want to have a gun that is radically different than what I'm familiar with. I use pretty much the same hold for all of my shotguns and is why my farm gun has a 14" LOP stock which is only slightly shorter than my other guns. The 12" LOP guns and the fullstock/pistol grip guns feel awkward to me because they are different that whan I'm used to. If I need shorter I have a 14" barrel for my 870.
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If you will be using a traditional stance, and are not of a smaller stature, then I would suggest you do not use a 12" LOP stock, but rather continue to use your longer stocks.
 
If you will be using a traditional stance, and are not of a smaller stature, then I would suggest you do not use a 12" LOP stock, but rather continue to use your longer stocks.
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Thats what I was looking for. Thank you for the advice jaycee!:D
 
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