124 Cam Pro data?

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Hey, guys I can't seem to find anything on the inter web.
I have 124 gr. HP's
Win 231 powder.
Fed primers

Hodgedon has Hornady HAP (zeros?) and Sierra FMJ data.

Cam pro bullet shape seems to be a bit of them both, maybe more of a FMJ in shape. Does anybody have some loads they have worked up? This load will be used in a revolver.
 
I use it with 800x in a semi auto 9mm wouldn't cycle 4.5 gr when I stepped to 4.7 it worked fine..
Don't have any velocities or anything
 
I would use the Sierra FMJ data. The data for the HAP bullets seems pretty slow compared to what is typical for bullets of that weight.
 
tjhaile said:
I would use the Sierra FMJ data. The data for the HAP bullets seems pretty slow compared to what is typical for bullets of that weight.
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Thanks, this is what I was thinking.
HAP start is 2.8gr. max 3.3gr.
Sierra FMJ start is 4.4gr. max 4.8gr.
Maybe I will try 4.0, a bit softer than one and higher than the other. Gonna have a look online again. It would be nice if the powder people would provide more popular bullet choices in their data.

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Talked to Cam-Pro, (nice guys btw) and they mentioned because of the thick plating to treat it like a FMJ. They could not give me a powder charge to use but gave me some recommended OAL.
124gr RN 1.120" oal for CZ 1.110" oal
124gr HP 1.100" oal for CZ 1.090" oal * this was the optimum length to use according to them.
 
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Plated bullets are not jacketed and use cast bullet data. Any 124 grain cast data will be fine. The shape and who made the bullet is irrelevant.
Cam Pro is Canadian. U.S. powder makers have very likely never heard of them. They certainly do not have the time nor interest to test every manufacturer's bullets.
 
I think they are not as tough as a FMJ, but they can be used in full on magnum loads, so they are stronger than Berry's for example who limit velocity. (I will look at cast data for 124gr.)

They have time and interest I would think. If you found data for the components you have available it may steer you to that brand of powder if they published it. Pistol guys shoot a dump load of bullets and powder, even though the charge weight is generally low.
Reloading for common rifle calibers is easy, as info is available for the bullets commonly used.
 
I load approximately 10 000 rounds of Cam Pro 124gr RN.
Here's my load to give you an idea:
CCI or S&B primer
1.135" OAL(shot around 1000 rounds through CZ 75 work fine)
4.0 gn of Titegroup
 
Movado said:
I load approximately 10 000 rounds of Cam Pro 124gr RN.
Here's my load to give you an idea:
CCI or S&B primer
1.135" OAL(shot around 1000 rounds through CZ 75 work fine)
4.0 gn of Titegroup
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This sounds about the same under Bullseye, time for me to look at a Chrono
 
sunray said:
Plated bullets are not jacketed and use cast bullet data. Any 124 grain cast data will be fine. The shape and who made the bullet is irrelevant.
Cam Pro is Canadian. U.S. powder makers have very likely never heard of them. They certainly do not have the time nor interest to test every manufacturer's bullets.
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I disagree, I've pushed some 124 cam pros nearing 1500fps out of a 38 super and though the plating did strip (blue swirls close up) they were still fairly accurate. I only had 200 projectiles but tried 100 in 38 super and 100 in 9mm. They seemed to be decent enough but no better than the new aim stuff and obviously inferior to the jacketed bdx or zeros
 
Lead hammer said:
Hey, guys I can't seem to find anything on the inter web.
I have 124 gr. HP's
Win 231 powder.
Fed primers

Hodgedon has Hornady HAP (zeros?) and Sierra FMJ data.

Cam pro bullet shape seems to be a bit of them both, maybe more of a FMJ in shape. Does anybody have some loads they have worked up? This load will be used in a revolver.
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I use those in my 9mm but the plated round nose not HP. But weight is the same.

My load is 4.2gr W231 with the 124gr plated round nose projectile, on CCI 500 small pistol primer in a 9mm case. OAL is 1.154" and I get nice smooth feed in both the S&W and the Glock. Min OAL is 1.10" and Max OAL is 1.16" for that round. No crony data but my groups at 20m are all nice and consistent.
 
Thanks
Does that load feel strong or soft?
I think I will do the CZ barrel drop test for me, then run that same load in my Dads revolver and see if his likes it. It would save some work IF they both happen to like it.
 
Feels like a factory load to me but my groups tightened up by about 1.5" on the average over Federal factory loads of same weight.
I don't load for maximum speed, I load for maximum accuracy. This load does it for me! I like it so much I just loaded another 800 with same recipe and am prepping another 1500 cases.
This should work well in your revolvers too. If it cycles the actions on my pistols it has plenty of snap for your revolvers unless you have an oversized cylinder gap. If you need to bump up the speed and pressure with that same load, just seat the projectiles to the min spec and that will bring up the pressures. I have them near the maximum OAL spec as it really does make the pistol feed and cycle better. Revolvers are much more forgiving.
 
I like the CamPro 124 gn HP. They make a nice hole in paper and I think they are a little more accurate than the RN. I load them using FMJ data. I have had good results using 4.8 gns of WSF and currently loading them with 4.7 gns of IMR7625. They are not as snappy as factory loads but lots of power to cycle the action on my Shadow. You will enjoy shooting them.
 
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