125gr Noslers, Ought Six & Mulies?

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I have no flat shooting super zapper deer rig and I've blown my quarterly allotment on heavy stuff but I have my trusty 25 yr old boat paddle Ruger '06 along with a spare Leupy 3.5x10 56 L .

What do you all think of .30 cal / 125grs / BC of .366 & SD of .188 to get in the 3,400 fps range for larger bodied Mulies or just stay with my traditional 165's and have a reason to talk myself into buying a 270 Weatherby this winter? ;)

Dirk
 
I consider my 30-06 with 180 grain bullets my super zapper deer rig so would stick with 165 grain if already shoots good in your rifle.

CT
 
I'd look at running a monometal like a 130 TTSX or gmx 125 or 140, not to say that the 125 nosler wouldn't cut the mustard on broadside shots, if I was going to go light for caliber. Comparable BC's but should hold together a little better if a close range or hard angle shot is needed. The down side to these lighter pills is wind and as ranges stretch much beyond 300 yards it really stars to reek havoc on them.
Of course I like the second idea even better and would prefer that route. If I can't get it done with a .30-06 and a 165 grain bullet at 2800ish fps odds are I shouldn't be doing it.
 
From personal experience a 30-06 with Nosler 165 gr. partions, ballistic tips, or Accu bonds moving between 28 - 2900 fps will handle everything from moose on down to ground hogs. So I would stick with 165 gr. in your 30-06.
 
The Nosler 125gr ballistic tips would not be my first choice, they will be moving fast and are pretty frangible compared to partitions.

The 130gr TTSX kill like crazy on deer sized game and I wouldn't be scared to shoot a moose with them, either. I have shot both in my 300WSM.
 
I have been using the 130 TTSX in my .308 and .30/06... it is proving to be flat, accurate combination... will test it on deer this fall.
 
Gatehouse said:
Certainly a better choice than the BT, and probably the same profile.
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cringe everytime I hear BT mentioned for hunting, down here they seem to think they are "strong" projectiles..... WTF.

I'm an accubond fan from way back but price is too high for regular use here....

people flame me down for flaming down their choices or Questions when asking about BTs for "Sambar"... somewhere along the lines I believe a Ballistic Tip from Nosler, is a fairly frangible projectile on par with the Super Xs and Corelokts in the lighter models.........................
Some people seem to tell me the changed the jacket thickness of the BTs and its all hunky dory premium projectile now days???

I dunno, but I don't use them...

150gr Corelokt kills big Sambar stags here, so should thump any Mule deer with proper placement of the shot.

WL
 
Gatehouse said:
The Nosler 125gr ballistic tips would not be my first choice, they will be moving fast and are pretty frangible compared to partitions.

The 130gr TTSX kill like crazy on deer sized game and I wouldn't be scared to shoot a moose with them, either. I have shot both in my 300WSM.
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Just like a .270
 
Nosler Ballistic Tips are an awesome bullet......they kill big game. This year I'm using 150gr. BT in my 7mm Rem. Mag. for bull elk.
 
Thanks for the replies, definitely would be of the accubond variety but you all made me realize how old I'm getting.... Grew up reloading with my Dad, Nosler only with some Speer on occasion. About time to embrace the monometal technology, some new reloading manuals are on the menu...

Dirk
 
I have never had a problem with BT's on medium game... they penetrate nicely, mushroom nicely and stay together reasonably well... of course I am a "broadside lung" shooter, so take that for what it is worth. I have used them in various weights and cartridges. One of my favourite whitetail rigs of all times was a Ruger No.1 in .30/30 loaded with 150 BT's... that took the "old" .30/30 to a whole new level.

I currently shoot the 115 BT in a Ruger M77 MKII .257 Roberts and the 150 BT in a Ruger M77 MKII 7X57.

I did notice, at some point, Nosler added the word "Hunting" to the backside of "Ballistic Tip", I don't know if this represents a change in design, a response to criticizm, or is just a marketing ploy?
 
track said:
Nosler Ballistic Tips are an awesome bullet......they kill big game. This year I'm using 150gr. BT in my 7mm Rem. Mag. for bull elk.
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I shot a white tail a few years ago with that bullet in my 7mm Mashburn. I'm sure glad it wasn't a big bull elk. That thing absolutely came unglued.
 
chuck nelson said:
I shot a white tail a few years ago with that bullet in my 7mm Mashburn. I'm sure glad it wasn't a big bull elk. That thing absolutely came unglued.
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I shot two does with a 7mm Weatherby and 140 NBTs. Ka-blooey! Great lung-shooting bullet (way behind the shoulder, not tight behind like I am wired to do and definitely not for breaking the shoulder) but I wouldn't use it on elk or moose either. That being said, these are seriously old stock bullets and, I believe, they underwent a redesign to stiffen them up.
 
chuck nelson said:
I shot a white tail a few years ago with that bullet in my 7mm Mashburn. I'm sure glad it wasn't a big bull elk. That thing absolutely came unglued.
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As my signature line states, "speed is fine, accuracy is final". More times than not my rifles love medium powder loads for accuracy; this in itself will prevent fragmentation of the ballistic tip, resulting in a controlled expansion and less energy loss. If not most times, than all the time, I have had complete pass through on big game. As you know, my son and I are serious trophy hunters and we would not use a bullet without confidence. Two autumns ago my son shot a very big moose with a 150gr. BT at 80 yards with his 7mm STW. The bullet passed right through with a medium load using IMR-7828.
http://imgur.com/yRWxhlt
 
track said:
As my signature line states, "speed is fine, accuracy is final". More times than not my rifles love medium powder loads for accuracy; this in itself will prevent fragmentation of the ballistic tip, resulting in a controlled expansion and less energy loss. If not most times, than all the time, I have had complete pass through on big game. As you know, my son and I are serious trophy hunters and we would not use a bullet without confidence. Two autumns ago my son shot a very big moose with a 150gr. BT at 80 yards with his 7mm STW. The bullet passed right through with a medium load using IMR-7828.
http://imgur.com/yRWxhlt
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That is a pretty bull.
 
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