12g vs Croc.

An old mate converted a few P14s out in East Africa for the new ruling elite, specifically for croc hunting!
 
coyotekiller82 said:
Google avg speeds for both, and you will find that my figures are accurate, as an average. On average, most humans are not in peak physical condition, on average, all crocs that make it to be full grown, are definately in peak physical condition. An average person would be in trouble if confronted by a croc within a certain distance, and usually that distance is withing striking range because of their amazing ability to occupy shallow water undetected.
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My google must be broken. link?
 
northwoodslivin said:
I have seen tests where the 12g has penetrated things a heck of a lot tougher then croc skin my friend! :D
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Sure, and I've done lots of these tests. The question was asked about using buckshot, and I think that a crocodile has lots of armour plating on them, and I'd question how well buckshot woudl penetrate, after having to go through thier bony hide.

I've never shot a crocodile with buckshot or anything else, so it's just speculation. I'm sure a more experienced answer coudl be obtained from the AR African forums.
 
The only Croc's I ever see are the ones the wife wears in the garden. Don't think they would hold up well to the 12:)
 
Gatehouse said:
Sure, and I've done lots of these tests. The question was asked about using buckshot, and I think that a crocodile has lots of armour plating on them, and I'd question how well buckshot woudl penetrate, after having to go through thier bony hide.

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strait on it might, but I wonder about shooting at a low angle (that that shot is sure to be) if it wouldn't glance off. Damaging but not penetrating the animal enough to stop it.
 
Gatehouse said:
Sure, and I've done lots of these tests. The question was asked about using buckshot, and I think that a crocodile has lots of armour plating on them, and I'd question how well buckshot woudl penetrate, after having to go through thier bony hide.

I've never shot a crocodile with buckshot or anything else, so it's just speculation. I'm sure a more experienced answer coudl be obtained from the AR African forums.
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Who wants to donate a pair of alligator shoes to Gatehouse so he can do some slug penetration testing?
 
From Kevin Robertson's "The Perfect Shot" (shot placement on African Game) it appears that in a hunting scenario, the proper shot on a crocodile is a very precise one or the brain is missed and the animal gets into the water and is gone. Head on the shot should be between and just behind the eyes. From the side should be midway between the eye and the ear ridge and such a shot will hit the golf ball sized brain. A side shot placed a couple of inches behind the back corner of the mouth will break the neck and sever the spinal cord. Such shots would be beyond the accuracy limitations of the average shotgun. In defensive shooting it is another thing all together, and if the animal is lost in the water that is not the immediate concern. We spent several hours following croc tracks up a sand river to no avail, so I am unable pass along any first hand wisdom as to the effect of shot placement in the field. I would think though that death by crocodile provides one of nature's most unpleasant opportunities to die in that once he has you he won't let go, you know he won't let go, and you are conscious and in great pain until you drown. Most depressing.
 
Gatehouse said:
Sure, and I've done lots of these tests. The question was asked about using buckshot, and I think that a crocodile has lots of armour plating on them, and I'd question how well buckshot woudl penetrate, after having to go through thier bony hide.

I've never shot a crocodile with buckshot or anything else, so it's just speculation. I'm sure a more experienced answer coudl be obtained from the AR African forums.
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My bad, but I seen the fellow suggesting using a slug, which would have been my suggestion as well. Buckshot, hmm.. I dunno :confused: Slug, with out a doubt for sure kill though :D
 
12 gauge with buckshot or slug would easily defeat a crocodile. Common guys, it's only crocodile skin, not armoured steel plates.
 
I still think you would need a head shot, I was planning a safari for my 40th so did a little research and there are quite a few croc stories out there, they dont seem to much different from alligators just bigger!
 
I would never use buckshot on any animal for self defense. A high-performance slug that penetrates deeply would be the only thing that I would use on a crocodile. If it's self defense, you've got to shoot him in the head and I don't think you can crack that melon with buckshot.
 
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