14" 45acp barrel blank?

Bought a blank from bitsofpieces in delta bc. What kinda project do you have going? I am trying to convert a single shot 12gage to .45acp, going to stay over 18.5". Going to make a custom reamer as most .45acp chambers are way to loose.
 
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Big JD-From the hills said:
Bought a blank from bitsofpieces in delta bc. What kinda project do you have going? I am trying to convert a single shot 12gage to .45acp, going to stay over 18.5". Going to make a custom reamer as most .45acp chambers are way to loose.
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I want to convert a Enfield to 45acp just because it looks cool. So do you have to keep it over 18.5 even though it's a single shot? I thought if it came from the factory shorter than that it would be ok, does that rule not apply to barrel blanks??
 
Yes, you do need to keep it that long. The law/rule you refer to applies to the barrel when it's supplied in a ready to install condition only. Not to barrel blanks. So you can buy a 10 inch barrel for your Ruger 10/22 from Dlask because they are licensed to make barrels that long in their final form. But if you buy a blank and make it yourself into a barrel that is shorter than the minimum permitted length depending on the sort of gun you just created a Prohibited Device.
 
BCRider said:
Yes, you do need to keep it that long. The law/rule you refer to applies to the barrel when it's supplied in a ready to install condition only. Not to barrel blanks. So you can buy a 10 inch barrel for your Ruger 10/22 from Dlask because they are licensed to make barrels that long in their final form. But if you buy a blank and make it yourself into a barrel that is shorter than the minimum permitted length depending on the sort of gun you just created a Prohibited Device.
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So if I was to make a 45acp barrel for a bolt action it needs to be over 18.5 unless it came from the factory complete?
 
BCRider said:
Yes, you do need to keep it that long. The law/rule you refer to applies to the barrel when it's supplied in a ready to install condition only. Not to barrel blanks. So you can buy a 10 inch barrel for your Ruger 10/22 from Dlask because they are licensed to make barrels that long in their final form. But if you buy a blank and make it yourself into a barrel that is shorter than the minimum permitted length depending on the sort of gun you just created a Prohibited Device.
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Barrel blanks are not barrels.
A licence is required for barrel making?
I held a Firearms Business Licence for many years. There are many activities that are covered in the application form. Never saw one related to barrel making.
Prohibited device? No. If a longarm has its barrel sawed off to below the minimum, the firearm becomes a prohibited firearm. The barrel itself has no legal status.
 
Not sure I understand.
If the barrel (threaded, chambered, not just a blank) has no status,why must a short barrel taken off a firearm (handgun in particular) have to be turned in for destruction? (As I understand it)
If a handgun (not 32 or 25) has no barrel at all, is it a prohib?
If a 6 inch barrel is then installed, does the hand gun then not become restricted?


tiriaq said:
If a longarm has its barrel sawed off to below the minimum, the firearm becomes a prohibited firearm. The barrel itself has no legal status.
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oldstarfire said:
Not sure I understand.
If the barrel (threaded, chambered, not just a blank) has no status,why must a short barrel taken off a firearm (handgun in particular) have to be turned in for destruction? (As I understand it)
If a handgun (not 32 or 25) has no barrel at all, is it a prohib?
If a 6 inch barrel is then installed, does the hand gun then not become restricted?
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A handgun barrel 105mm or less in length is a named prohibited device. If a 12-6 handgun (12-6 because of its short barrel) is rebarrelled with a longer barrel, it can be reclassified as restricted. Usually the original barrel must be surrendered or destroyed. Such a barrel is not prohibited when it is part of the registered 12-6 handgun. On its own, it is prohibited.
A handgun without a barrel is restricted or prohibited according to its classification when registered.
But, if a handgun, originally prohibited, is reclassified as restricted because of being rebarrelled, it reverts to prohibited if the longer barrel is removed.
A detached .25 or .32 handgun barrel is prohibited if it is 105mm or less in length; if it is longer, then it is not a prohibited device.
 
here is a thread i started a few years ago that might pertain to your questions still no solid yes or no. but in the end you will always have the uptight fallows the law to what they believe it to be and the type to try to read between the lines where if it doesnt specify you cant that means you can. so in the end its up to you what you choose to do, no one on here can tell you if its legal or not just tell you there interpretation of the law

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/706425-barrel-length-question-under-18-5-inches
 
drift1122 said:
So if I was to make a 45acp barrel for a bolt action it needs to be over 18.5 unless it came from the factory complete?
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No. The 18.5" bbl length only applies to semi-autos. The only length condition that needs to be met for a bolt action is the OAL of 26" including the stock. Think of all the short 12" barrelled pump shotguns out there.


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I guess I should play it safe and keep it over 18.5, thanks for the info. It would have been cool to make it a short barrel conversion.
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As long as the completed rifle does not measure less than 26" crown to butt, you can make the bbl any length you want. The only time this OAL is an issue is if you add a folding stock that allows the rifle to be fired when the stock is folded.


BCRider said:
Yes, you do need to keep it that long. The law/rule you refer to applies to the barrel when it's supplied in a ready to install condition only. Not to barrel blanks.
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The law doesn't say anything like this. All the law says is that it is illegal to shorten a barrel by cutting or chopping. The problem is this law is too vague, doesn't understand how guns are built and is near impossible to enforce unless you admit to having cut the bbl or there are obvious markings or signs of the bbl having been shortened.

The law has to prove that you cut the bbl down. You in no way have to prove that you didn't.
 
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Big JD-From the hills said:
What about all the mares legs? Some are well under 26" oal. I would stick to the longer bbl anyway, it will look better/less noise.
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A non-semi less than 26" would be restricted.

Classes of firearms

All firearms in Canada fall into one of three classes - non-restricted, restricted or prohibited.

Non-restricted firearm: any rifle or shotgun that is neither restricted nor prohibited. Most common long guns are non-restricted, but there are exceptions.

Restricted firearm* means:

a handgun that is not a prohibited firearm,
a firearm that is not a prohibited firearm, has a barrel less than 470 mm in length, and is capable of discharging centre-fire ammunition in a semi-automatic manner,
a firearm that is designed or adapted to be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660 mm by folding, telescoping or otherwise, or
a firearm of any other kind that is prescribed to be a restricted firearm in the Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited or Restricted.
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Suputin said:
No. The 18.5" bbl length only applies to semi-autos. The only length condition that needs to be met for a bolt action is the OAL of 26" including the stock. Think of all the short 12" barrelled pump shotguns out there.




As long as the completed rifle does not measure less than 26" crown to butt, you can make the bbl any length you want. The only time this OAL is an issue is if you add a folding stock that allows the rifle to be fired when the stock is folded.




The law doesn't say anything like this. All the law says is that it is illegal to shorten a barrel by cutting or chopping. The problem is this law is too vague, doesn't understand how guns are built and is near impossible to enforce unless you admit to having cut the bbl or there are obvious markings or signs of the bbl having been shortened.

The law has to prove that you cut the bbl down. You in no way have to prove that you didn't.
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Awesome thanks for the info this I what I wanted to hear but I suppose I would have to bring the documentation to prove the gun is nr. 12" to 14" inch barrel is what I would want as long as it stays over the 26" legal limit for NR.
 
A factory made barrel can be shorter than 18 or 18.5" for a semi, but you as a back yard
gunsmith can't make it yourself.
Suputin , It does say in the Regulations that you can't cut a barrel less than 18"
BTW, I now stock 8 in shot guns, factory made, non restricted, Think you can
make one your self? You can't
You could make a 14 in barrel liner for a factory made barrel O.K.
if you are making a 12 or 14 inch barrel for a restricted gun, than that is not a problem.
BTW, If any one out there has 100% of the firearms act figured out, I haven't run into them,
that goes for the Cops, and judges as well, Liberal lawyers, Who knows??????
 
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