14" BBL - Why???

Grouse Man said:
Okay, I'll ask the ignorant question about the 870 in the pic with the short barrel and the bobbed grip: isn't overall length a legal issue? And what's the min. length overall? Asking cause I don't know.

The one in the picture actually has a 16 inch barrel, not the 14. It's overall length is just a hair over the 26 inch mark for non-restricted.
 
I got lucky and found a brand new Mossberg 590 with a 14" bbl. I love the thing to death (sort of a Brokeback Moutnain kinda love) It is tons of fun to shoot. It came with a speedfeed stock and ghost ring sights. It also had a strap on the foreend so your hand doesnt slide off and into the path of the shot you want to fire. If you can get one....get one
 
Grouse Man said:
Okay, I'll ask the ignorant question about the 870 in the pic with the short barrel and the bobbed grip: isn't overall length a legal issue? And what's the min. length overall? Asking cause I don't know.

The Barrel is 16" long. The overall length with the Speedfeed Pistol grip is 27 3/8" so it's non-restricted. The Speedfeed pistol grips on a 14" barrel are just 5/8" - 3/4" too short for the overall length requirement. Apparently a regular style pistol grip is just over 26" with the 16" barrel on a Rem 870.
Personaly I think Dlask should be offering a 16" barrel along with their plans to make 12 1/2" and 14" barrels.
I was hitting clays pretty easy with the 16" barrel even with one hand:D

Here's some footage of my second day shooting clays with a pistol gripped 16" rem 870 Magnum

Candown


And here's one of Frosty catchin some birdshot..

Candown
 
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P0WERWAGON said:
its kinda funny, shotguns are the only place is hear of men bragging of how small theirs is.

Nah, pistols too. I'm the only one in my group of shooting buddies that's 12(6), so I get to say, "Mines smaller than yours." ;)
 
Paulinski said:
Thats what I have been wondering for a while. Why not a 14" bbl with screw in chokes?

Because longer barrels have more mass and conventional thinking is that they swing better and are easier to shoot small moving targets with. You will never find a 14" barrel in an ATA trap championship round. Twice the length or longer is the norm.
 
I realise that at the target range 28" barrel is considered short.:) Needless to day I'd like to have an option of 14" screw in chokes barrel. I can bring any shotgun to the trap field, hitting perfect 25's with 14"bbl is a different story.
 
Maybe some one with some actual ballistics could post soem data on velocity loss with a 14 inch barrel......
 
guntech said:
Maybe some one with some actual ballistics could post soem data on velocity loss with a 14 inch barrel......

Next Tuesday is going to be fun, I will be at the range with 12.5" 16" 18" and 20" barrels, a chrono and a couple of cases of slugs...will post results for velocity and accuracy when I get back.

Cheers
 
I don't see how it would affect accuracy all that much, sure the pattern may be a tad larger (even twice as large as a 28 inch barrel is quite suitable for most hunting situations) than those from a longer barrel. As for velocity, I seem to recall an article in an American gun rag a few years ago that mentioned that shotguns attain their maximum velocities in the first 12 to 16? inches of barrel, anything longer doesn't affect velocities significantly but it does help with "pointability", which is something that either ghost ring sights or a red dot would fix quite nicely.

As for pattern sizes, I guess there's only one way to find out, screw in a full choke, then a modified choke and lastly a cylinder bore to a 14, an 18, a 20, and finally a 28 inch barrel, and proceed to blast away at a target at a set distance, someone mentioned 40 yards above, and see just how much shot dispersion is <really> affected, my money is on "not significantly".
 
I'm not really up for challenging myself my 30" 391 serves nicely at the trap field. Still I would like to find out why there are no factory 14' screw in choke barrels. When I get a 14" Rem 870 Police I'm going to thread the barrel for different chokes. Em I going to be called a bubba :(
 
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