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I would have carried on in the last thread I started (my first one on cgn) about "sniper rifles" but somebody locked it. anyways, just to expand, before getting my PAL I had a .177 ruger blackhawk air rifle (black with a scope - a real sniper air rifle :p ). I could group within 2 inches on a windless day, I know not much but it's not exactly high powered or at $120 well built.

As for prohibited "sniper" rifles in my first thread I cannot find the article I read so I cannot show you.

Since getting my PAL I acquired a 1950 sks, and I am still looking for something to do some long distance shooting with. Preferably something economical, I don't mind paying $$$ for fun but I can't go overboard
 
remmington 700, 5r milspec take the gun to a smith and get the action bedded and a tigger job, put on some good glass and the gun will probably out shoot you for a long while to come,

simple, affordable and done deal
 
I missed the earlier thread but if you want a rifle that is the same as those actually in service with military units and used in the role commonly referred to as sniping then your choices are not cheap. You can, for example, purchase an Accuracy International, a PGWDTI Timberwolf, a PGWDTI Coyotye ( actually, I'm not sure about the Coyote as it may not be in service ), a SAKO TRG 22/42, a Blaser Tac etc. If you want similar but not the same then consider the Remington 700P (or R5). If you want 'looks like' but not in military service (though probably in police service) then consider offerings from Savage.

The term 'sniper rifle' has some negatives so you are probably better off referring to such a rifle as a precision/tactical rifle.

If you are wasting our time the thread will be locked in due course.
 
Your SKS will shoot long distance, in fact most rifles will shoot very long distances; certainly longer than you can throw.

Seriously... get out and shoot, learn to answer your own questions through experimentation, don't rely on internet forums for consumer advice because nobody has to take any responsubility for what you yourself purchase. Free anonymous advice is usually based on either someone else's fantasy, or the need for someone to validfate their own choices.... and much of the advice you get is crap anyway.
 
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learn to answer your own questions through experimentation, don't rely on internet forums for consumer advice because nobody has to take any responsubility for what you yourself purchase. Free anonymous advice is usually based on either someone else's fantasy, or the need for someone to validfate their own choices.... and much of the advice you get is crap anyway.
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This is seriously the best advice anyone can give, all kidding aside. Should be a sticky on every board.
 
Obtunded said:
Free anonymous advice is usually based on either someone else's fantasy, or the need for someone to validfate their own choices.... and much of the advice you get is crap anyway.
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wow, someone finally said it.:D

get a bolt action .223, learn to shoot, upgrade as you go. savage, rem whatever, it's all the same, seriously.
 
The internet is full of opinions that anyone can claim with no responsibility and that doesn't mean it's fact!
One has to know when it's truth or fiction.

The only real way is what Obtunded said. Get out there and experience for yourself. You'll make mistakes, but you'll learn and be the wiser for it. No one here can tell you what you'll end up liking. It's all personal preference really.
 
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. Free anonymous advice is usually based on either someone else's fantasy, anyway.
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So, what you're saying is that he needs a 338 Lapua Magnum, Schmidt and Bender scope. But only because 408 Cheytac is hard to get components for. I understand now.

or the need for someone to validfate their own choices....
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But if all he can afford is a stevens 200 in 300 WM and a Savage model 12 in 22-250, with Mueller scopes, he'll be just fine too.

and much of the advice you get is crap
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My first non-milsurp bolt action was a Stevens 200 in .223 (1:9) - what a great rifle! I sold it and bought a Savage 25 in .223 (1:9) which is also a good rifle - both very accurate out of the box, and both very inexpensive (relatively).

With this Savage, I have a Bushnell 6-20something Banner mildot, over a Harris bipod, and it's more than accurate enough to teach me for many months to come.

I'm not in a hurry to get anything better until I can consistently hit a 6" gong at random ranges out to 600 yards in any reasonable wind condition (the Precision guys reading this are chuckling, knowing that I have a ton of work ahead of me :) )

I could get a Sako or an AI, or even a Savage 110BA, but I won't learn much from those that I won't learn for cheap with my current rig.
 
Bandit86 I'm going to give you the best advice that I can.

If your looking for a "sniper rifle" go out and buy a 22LR, and the nicest scope you can afford.

Look at a Savage Mark II FV. It has a Accutrigger and a bull barrel. $288 on Savages site and $269 on Cabelas Canada.

For a scope I would look at a Vortex Viper. Any of the Vipers will be nice. I bought my Viper 3-9X40 for just over $300 localy. One nice thing about the vipers if that you can "re-zero" your turrets after you zero your rifle. Makes it very easy to go back to your zero.

Do not skimp on a scope. With out a quality scope that tracks well you can't make shots at different distances. All my Vipers track awesome. This is what you are looking for. Do not skimp on rings either. Burris makes a nice super beefy set for about $60-$75 called the Extreme Tactical rings I believe.

Now that you have your rifle all set up get yourself a nice rest. A sand bag works well. A bipod is a good choice also.

Now go out in the feild. Shoot! Lots! 500 rounds for about $20, you can't go wrong.

Zero your rifle at 50 yards and start to make yourself a drop chart. Get a friend and a 50 yard measuring tape and mark out every 50 yards to 250 or 300 yards.

Just getting your drop chart made will be a ton of fun. Good luck!
 
I'm even contemplating taking a step back so I can jump ahead 2. My .300win mag shoots better than I can but it's costly to feed, I plan on getting a nice .223 to hone my skills so I can actually take advantage of my .300's capabilities. In hindsight if I had just started with the .223 I'd be farther ahead than I am now.
 
"...sniper air rifle..." No such thing.
"...prohibited "sniper" rifles..." No rifle is prohibited because it may be a sniper rifle.
An SKS is a 300 yard rifle, at most.
"...looking for something to do some long distance shooting..." What do you call 'long distance'?
 
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