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Pretty lawng wrinckle awn that rear wood.
I'd do nutt'in but clean'r up and shewt it.
If that chunk'oh wood wuzz tuh separate, I'd biscuit joynt it.
 
With the current stock there's no collector value. . A prewar stock in very good condition is expensive and difficult to find, especially in Canada. . If the rear receiver is drilled for a scope base or the left side of the receiver is drilled for side mount scope there'll be little if any collector interest.

Aside from that it should make a good shooter.
 
In 1966-67 in Gunsmithing school we were taught that this particular cartridge had blown up more Model 70's than any other round... by hand loaders trying to make it do what it can't... it's a weak little case and not designed for extreme pressure.
 
In 1966-67 in Gunsmithing school we were taught that this particular cartridge had blown up more Model 70's than any other round... by hand loaders trying to make it do what it can't... it's a weak little case and not designed for extreme pressure.

Seriously ... I can't see that case holding enough powder to blow up a model 70 action??
That's a lot of steel around that small case.

JJ
 
Seriously ... I can't see that case holding enough powder to blow up a model 70 action??
That's a lot of steel around that small case.

JJ

Seriously - the info was right from Winchester... it doesn't matter how much steel is there, when the unsupported thin brass lets go... the massive amount of steel funnels and concentrates the escaping gas... and thinner portions of steel can rupture. It occurs not because of an action weakness but a catastrophic case failure. It's easy to do in a very small weak case...
 
In 1966-67 in Gunsmithing school we were taught that this particular cartridge had blown up more Model 70's than any other round... by hand loaders trying to make it do what it can't... it's a weak little case and not designed for extreme pressure.

Sounds like pistol powder in weak brass in a rifle that doesn't handle gas well.
 
Seriously ... I can't see that case holding enough powder to blow up a model 70 action??
That's a lot of steel around that small case.

JJ

You don't understand how pressure works inside a chamber...

The Hornet is a finicky little round and is prone to pressure spikes.... exacerbating the problem is that there are many versions of the Hornet.

OP.... that is a cool find... I have owned and shot many Hornets, but I have never even seen an M70 Hornet.
 
In 1962 my Dad gave me a rifle which was my 1st. C. F. Rifle , which I still have & shoot coyotes with.
A Winchester Md.- 43 in .22 Hornet . May be 1,000. + ground hogs , 150 crows , & 50 coyotes latter
I still love it. Reloaded it since 1965 , with Fed. Government Surplus ammo. from the M-4 .
In 1964 , my neighbor had a mint Win. M-70 , in .22 Hornet ,,,,,,,,, never forgot that lovely rifle.
Several other .22 Hornets adorn my walls : Bruno ZKW 465's , H&R M-4 , Sav. -M- 23 ,,, great little cartridge . ,,,,, Frank
 
Seriously - the info was right from Winchester... it doesn't matter how much steel is there, when the unsupported thin brass lets go... the massive amount of steel funnels and concentrates the escaping gas... and thinner portions of steel can rupture. It occurs not because of an action weakness but a catastrophic case failure. It's easy to do in a very small weak case...

Looking at some literature from Hercules circa 1960, two loads for the Hornet are listed using 2400 and Unique, my guess is double charges of Unique are to blame.
 
How would you get a double charge in the hornet case though? one charge of lil'gun pretty much fills case...2400 and Unique must be different consistency...???


Looking at some literature from Hercules circa 1960, two loads for the Hornet are listed using 2400 and Unique, my guess is double charges of Unique are to blame.
 
Hoytcanon, I agree, it is a cool little find in spite of all the war wounds! First I've ever seen, so I had to scoop it up.


You don't understand how pressure works inside a chamber...

The Hornet is a finicky little round and is prone to pressure spikes.... exacerbating the problem is that there are many versions of the Hornet.

OP.... that is a cool find... I have owned and shot many Hornets, but I have never even seen an M70 Hornet.
 
Did someone add a custom High Comb onto the factory stock?

If so, it seems a shame now, but when it was just another gun on the rack, well, different times and all that!

I'd bet if a fellow was to search patiently, a decent stock could be got, otherwise use it and love it for what it is!

Pretty cool snag! Put a decent old scope on that and you should have been able to watch the pink mist form out at the receiving end. Lots of weight for not much mass going down the tube.

Cheers
Trev
 
How would you get a double charge in the hornet case though? one charge of lil'gun pretty much fills case...2400 and Unique must be different consistency...???

I've never used unique. But the recommended charge was only 4.5 grains, easy to over charge would be my guess.
 
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