15.7 vs 6nia

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As far as my limited understanding goes, a 15.7” barrel is not allowed into the States under the 6nia.
Anyone know if pinning the muzzle device would be an acceptable mean of getting to the magic 16” length?

Other than doing something I don’t really want to do, any other problems with this?
 
Give them a call. The few times I have had to contact them I found them surprisingly helpful and willing to go out of their way to accommodate.
 
I have an Armalite M15 Competition that is quite popular in the states. It has a 13.5" barrel that has a large muzzle brake pinned AND welded. That meets their SBR Law and is completely legal in the states. I am fairly sure it has to be both pinned and welded to be compliant but I would double check.
 
For temporary import it should be fine. For permanent import it needs to be pinned and welded to meet NFA requirements. But if it's a 15.7" barrel I'm guessing it's a Colt Canada which I believe cannot be permanently imported anyway.

Phone the ATF and double check with them to make sure, this should not be construed as legal advice. Also make sure you comply with all State and local laws as well.
 
Steve MKII said:
For temporary import it should be fine. For permanent import it needs to be pinned and welded to meet NFA requirements. But if it's a 15.7" barrel I'm guessing it's a Colt Canada which I believe cannot be permanently imported anyway.

Phone the ATF and double check with them to make sure, this should not be construed as legal advice. Also make sure you comply with all State and local laws as well.
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Wrong. 16" is bare minimum, it applies to both temporary import and permanent import. Law is law, their law dont exclude anyone or any firearms (which is black and white and easy to comprehend). I have a 14.5 midlength gas that i had to pin and weld as well. When your firearm is pinned and welded, you actually stated it as 16" because it is now part of the barrel.

On page 2 of the form where it asks you how much ammo you are bringing, you always list 1000 rnds each caliber and every possible brand you can think of. Dont ask me why, i will let you figure that one out..and you will thank me later
 
sky52 said:
Wrong. 16" is bare minimum, it applies to both temporary import and permanent import. Law is law, their law dont exclude anyone or any firearms (which is black and white and easy to comprehend). I have a 14.5 midlength gas that i had to pin and weld as well. When your firearm is pinned and welded, you actually stated it as 16" because it is now part of the barrel.

On page 2 of the form where it asks you how much ammo you are bringing, you always list 1000 rnds each caliber and every possible brand you can think of. Dont ask me why, i will let you figure that one out..and you will thank me later
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I like how you think.
 
sky52 said:
Wrong. 16" is bare minimum, it applies to both temporary import and permanent import. Law is law, their law dont exclude anyone or any firearms (which is black and white and easy to comprehend). I have a 14.5 midlength gas that i had to pin and weld as well. When your firearm is pinned and welded, you actually stated it as 16" because it is now part of the barrel.

On page 2 of the form where it asks you how much ammo you are bringing, you always list 1000 rnds each caliber and every possible brand you can think of. Dont ask me why, i will let you figure that one out..and you will thank me later
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Yes the law is the law, but it can be different in certain situations. For example there is no prohibition on purchasing or possessing firearms under Federal law if you're a Canadian like there is for those who need a Visa to enter the country. That said, you may be correct. I was just basing it on what I heard from other Canadians who said they took their 15.7" to the US without issue (such as the poster directly below you), it's not first hand experience and as I said it's not legal advice, OP should double check with the ATF.
 
It states very clearly in the instructions for the form 6 that you may not bring in a NFA unregistered sbr (no 6 under general information), which is what you have according to them. Pinning and welding is very easy and about as permanent as a rivet in a mag if done right. In a place where the wrong person seeing you with a vfg on your ar "pistol" can cause the BATF to come to your house, shoot your dog, and arrest you. Why would mess around?
 
If your sa15.7 is getting approved, you got lucky. I hsd one of those lucky a few years back. They approved my VZ58 one time years ago, but denied it wvery single time after, there are times where you get a rookie agent and he/she probably doesnt know any better. Only way a <16 inch can make it in is to remove the stock and put a brace on
 
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