150gr FN .308 cal in 30-06 + Pics

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Hey whats the gist with using some surplus 30-30 projectiles, assuming 170gr round nose maybe corelokts? or super x? as quite old.

im thinkin of loading them to plink with my new Lefty A bolt stainless in the next week , while i possibly attend to the trigger etc.

just down load em a bit? or sing em, as only paper hunting?
 
This is data from the Speer#10 book for reduced plinking loads and the 180gr bullet.There is no issue using this for your 170's and you shouldn't end up with varmint expansion.IMR 4198 26gr/1723fps .......28gr/1875fps.......30gr/2000fps You can likely up this a grain or two watching for pressure signs along the way.Just like a 30-30
 
Have at it WL, used them in a 308 years ago.
Reduced the velocity and went hunting. Did not take any game with them.
A water jug test showed that I could load them to at least 2500 fps with normal expansion.
At the 2500 accuracy was great.
I think the round nose is a bit tougher than the flat nose.

David
 
I used Hornady 170 grain flat points in my 1943 military 03A3 30-06 for deer hunting as my "rain gun". I downloaded this ammo to approximately 2500 fps within the Hornady designed max velocity range for this 30-30 bullet.

These Hornady 30-30 bullets had a softer lead core than other .308 caliber bullets and shot very well in my old worn two groove WWII barrel. Meaning when fired and kicked in the seat of the pants these bullets expanded to the bore diameter of .312 and still shot very tight groops at 100 yards with the rifles peep sights.

And since you are a Ozmanic and eat Vegimite I will also give you more Enfield secrets.

For case forming and practice I load 100 grain .312 Hornady pistol bullets with SR 4759 and Trail Boss with reduced loads. They shoot well and also make the brass butt plate softer when shooting 100 or more rounds.

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hahahaaha That made my Day. Cheers mate!! (Bigped)

To the Other fellas with some infos,
They projies are actually FN, ill post a photo tonight...along side my new gun.
 
10 grams..... so a 150 grain bullet.....? scales are only in full numbers on grams? its definatly 308 calibre projectile.

FN, cannelure. picture for specifics.
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and me first left hander rifle! finally know what the palm swell pistol grip is all about LOL

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Oi so I've also got 170gr Hornady FN an the unknowns look very similiar just Shorter..

i have about 150 of these all up, so lots of plinking and proberly hunting involved in there demise.

Whattyas think, start at the 150gr loads with Varget and How much powder? 40 , (is about 6 below Min for 150gr)

and then with the 170s, keep it about the same?
 
Those "projectiles" are called "bullets".

Most of us on here know that technical name.

I have use a lot of 170 gr. 30-30 bullets in my 308 as plinker bullets. I got a bucket of seconds once and had to find a use for them.

They shot well, but did not always feed well in some rifles.

If you use them for hunting, they would probably be a bit explosive under 100 yards. They are made for 30-30 velocity.

On some game (like a big red) being explosive would not matter much. But I would not use it on deer.
 
May not be directly relevant, but ...

... last year I put together a reduced (about 70.1% of max) .308 load using 150g Hornady SST bullets, and 31.9 grains of H4895. Did not chrono the load, but the info source I used gave a velocity of 2203 fps. My purpose was to have a load for a 12 year old grand son to use in a Winchester model 88 for his first year of deer hunting. We sighted it in at the range ( best was a 1.027" 5 shot group @ 100 yds.), and he used it to take a very nice (4 pt.) mule deer buck in the fall. Very mild in the recoil department, but certainly enough power to do the job at 100 to 150 yards. Also, at a velocity of around 2200 fps, definitely not too fast for a bullet designed for the 30-30.
 
icedog said:
May not be directly relevant, but ...

... last year I put together a reduced (about 70.1% of max) .308 load using 150g Hornady SST bullets, and 31.9 grains of H4895. Did not chrono the load, but the info source I used gave a velocity of 2203 fps. My purpose was to have a load for a 12 year old grand son to use in a Winchester model 88 for his first year of deer hunting. We sighted it in at the range ( best was a 1.027" 5 shot group @ 100 yds.), and he used it to take a very nice (4 pt.) mule deer buck in the fall. Very mild in the recoil department, but certainly enough power to do the job at 100 to 150 yards. Also, at a velocity of around 2200 fps, definitely not too fast for a bullet designed for the 30-30.
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howdy mate, thanks for the info, that does sound like a good light load- i have a 11 y.o myself, so it may be something i look into down the road too!! maybe more so in the 7mm08 with this powder which works in the -60% range.
Good stuff with your hunt, congrats to your lad.
cheers mate
 
Its a keeper, proberly my typical flinch not helpin, but its shooting those 150gr FN with 45 grain 2209 pretty hard and straight..
i pulled several out of the soft dirt bank an most were folded just back from the cannelure, which would be expected at that speed, what i did notce is that a 270 130gr will open up alot more violently in the same dirt.... an it will rip a 35 250gr SP to before the cannelure at 2500fps..
so im more than confident for the Fallow deer even Bucks, but i wont be shooting Sambar deer with them at this stage, if i do it will be 2 ribs back and track it down..

i tell you its weird laying down an loading a left handed gun when you are so so used to loading a rh breech port!

it started real low but then i adjusted heaps high because i tend to push into the recoil an often trigger release is low so the bullet doesnt appear to be so high... but on a good shot, the 2 top ones, u notice its heaps high.
so i walked it down and back up to be about bang on at 100m , thats 10 done an 10 to hunt as not too worried in groups, the two side by side are enough for me.
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I can update this so far and ask another Q afterward.

so far ive shot 3 rounds at game and connected with each shot, unusual for me :p
first was 2 fallow deer read whitetailed deer sized, not having shot the FN past 100m, i aimed mid way up the body 2 ribs back as she was angling away a tad head down feeding, at the shot jumped an took off but assuming i missed with the dust flying, followed another in the fading light and in doing so in the scope see another yellow one standing looking back at the other deer, which i assumed was mum, she was down hill front on looking to her left, aiming for just centre mass, i collected her in the head/eye (as it would of been at centre mass area at time of shot) an stoned cold dropped it. it was a spiker.
both shots showed no sign of expansion in the opposite sides ??? 45gr 2206h puts them around 2700 odd. 200 meters puts them at maybe 2500? due to the entry side of angling shot it showed more damage than exit round hole?
head was also same, in the eye so hard to tell but out the side of ear area, round hole also.

then the close up shot, 30m onto a Coyote size dog, as it walked down a trail from above me slight slope i aimed just behind its head and got about its cheek and into the shoulder blades, appeared to just paralize it , rip a long shallow wound and carry on, a bit lucky but hey.. being so thinned i dont think it violently expanded, no doubt opened up but the dogs skin rips fairly easy..
thoughts?


ive shot 15 of the 20 i initially loaded, quite happym but ye to shoot a sambar read elk sized, an ama bit hesitant until i do so.

would you keep the load as is, or slow it a bit?

go to the 170s or ?
 
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