16 or 20 ?

I bought a Remington model 11( same as a Browning auto 5 google model 11 for history, very interesting) last year in 16 ga on a whim. Great caliber, no issues with ammo. You may not find it at Canadian Tire or Wal Mart, but any good sporting shop should have some. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another 16. As already stated, carries like a 20 hits like a 12.
 
A person has 10 months to prepare for two months of hunting if a person can not have there act together to have ammo in hand ,maybe they should take up golf. I hear this comment all the time about ammo rifle and shotgun it is ridiculous reasoning. Just my rant don't mean to offend anyone. I allmost forgot i have many 16ga guns .

On the ammo it really depends where you live in this dam country. I have to drive 9 hours one way to hit a decent gun shop and yes when I am there at least once a year I stock up. I hunted a few times out your way and I can assure you it would be quite a shock for you to see what we have to draw from down here. I had to order rifle ammo this year from Alberta and pay unreal courier charges for some 280 and 7mm08 ammo which you have on the shelf. Take care:)
 
To the OP:

As much as I like the Bobwhite shotgun.....if you are able to, I suggest that you first handle both the 20 and 16 versions.

Something to note, you will find the 16ga Bobwhite aprox 7lbs+ (the Ringneck model a little more in the same gauge). Personally speaking, the balance (more influenced by the receiver weight) did not appeal to me and I had owned/tried two 16ga Bobwhites and eventually let those go, albeit reluctantly. Nevertheless, the Bobwhites in any gauge are good field models and certainly a great bargain in a traditional SxS shotgun inside that price range.

The 20ga Bobwhite (average 6.9lbs) is well balanced overall despite being somewhat barrel heavy (read 3in chambers).

The website lists the 12g Bobwhite at 7lbs, the 16 at 6.6lbs and the 20 at 6.0lbs. I will be getting it with 26" barrels so that may change the balance a bit compared to a 28" version. Unfortunately i can't handle a CZ because nobody stocks them here and I will have to order through Prophet River guns.
 
20 gauge because they are usually lighter shotguns. Also, ammo is cheaper and more readily available.

That depends on the make of gun. I have an English 12 gauge and a German 16 and 12 gauge that handle better and are as light as a nice little Spanish 20 I have. One would really have to handle the gun to see if it fits the shooter.
 
16ga vs 20 ga SxS. First, I am a 16ga lover and am for several reasons. I have owned and hunted with many 20ga SxS's for around 45 years with most averaging 6.5 lbs. My 16's average the same with a bit larger payload. A 1oz load in a 20 in 2 3/4 or 3 inch simply does not pattern well. I now own 8 sixteen gauge guns and only one twenty gauge. why? Simply put and ignoring the hype of 20ga shells being cheaper and more available -- I just find that in the field I have less cripples with a 16ga than a twenty. For what it's worth just a casual observation from 45 years of hunting. Besides a 16 is super cool!
Cheers
 
16ga vs 20 ga SxS. First, I am a 16ga lover and am for several reasons. I have owned and hunted with many 20ga SxS's for around 45 years with most averaging 6.5 lbs. My 16's average the same with a bit larger payload. A 1oz load in a 20 in 2 3/4 or 3 inch simply does not pattern well. I now own 8 sixteen gauge guns and only one twenty gauge. why? Simply put and ignoring the hype of 20ga shells being cheaper and more available -- I just find that in the field I have less cripples with a 16ga than a twenty. For what it's worth just a casual observation from 45 years of hunting. Besides a 16 is super cool!
Cheers


Sounds like your 20ga had a bad combination of shot size/ounce and choke size, but to say 20 gauges do not pattern well is just simply wrong. All shotguns, no matter what gauge, should be patterned on paper until the proper shot size/ounce works with the choke of the gun for the average distance you will be shooting.

Also, to let everyone know, the problem with locating 16ga ammo is because small stores can not afford to keep ammo in inventory that is not common to most hunters and target shooters. Small stores may try to keep some amounts on hand, but what happens is when a 16ga shooter arrives at the store he will buy it all for himself, leaving other 16ga shooters dry and empty. Sorry, but that's a fact.

So if you are shooting 16ga, the best thing to do is order enough cases of it to last you all the hunting seasons of your life. Or take up reloading.
 
If your just hunting with it,the 16ga would be fine. If your a clay target shooter,get the 20. Ive never seen cheap target shells in 16ga,nor have I seen anyone use a 16 in skeet or sporting clays. I used to shoot a 16,but now I just keep 12's and a 20,and one lonely old 410.
 
If your just hunting with it,the 16ga would be fine. If your a clay target shooter,get the 20. Ive never seen cheap target shells in 16ga,nor have I seen anyone use a 16 in skeet or sporting clays. I used to shoot a 16,but now I just keep 12's and a 20,and one lonely old 410.

I shoot 16 at Skeet, Trap a SC'S -- Like a lot of 12 and 20ga shooters, I reload.
 
Sounds like your 20ga had a bad combination of shot size/ounce and choke size, but to say 20 gauges do not pattern well is just simply wrong. All shotguns, no matter what gauge, should be patterned on paper until the proper shot size/ounce works with the choke of the gun for the average distance you will be shooting.

Also, to let everyone know, the problem with locating 16ga ammo is because small stores can not afford to keep ammo in inventory that is not common to most hunters and target shooters. Small stores may try to keep some amounts on hand, but what happens is when a 16ga shooter arrives at the store he will buy it all for himself, leaving other 16ga shooters dry and empty. Sorry, but that's a fact.

So if you are shooting 16ga, the best thing to do is order enough cases of it to last you all the hunting seasons of your life. Or take up reloading.

All I said is that Ihave never found a 20ga load in any shot size that would pattern as good as a 16.
 
The website lists the 12g Bobwhite at 7lbs, the 16 at 6.6lbs and the 20 at 6.0lbs. I will be getting it with 26" barrels so that may change the balance a bit compared to a 28" version. Unfortunately i can't handle a CZ because nobody stocks them here and I will have to order through Prophet River guns.

The 16ga Bobwhite is available with 26in bbls only and if the advertised weight was true then I'd still have one at least. The 20ga doesn't weigh 6lbs either.
 
A person has 10 months to prepare for two months of hunting if a person can not have there act together to have ammo in hand ,maybe they should take up golf. I hear this comment all the time about ammo rifle and shotgun it is ridiculous reasoning. Just my rant don't mean to offend anyone. I allmost forgot i have many 16ga guns .

Completely agree. I shoot 16's and I hunt waterfowl and won't use steel. I am always on the lookout for the right shells and I always have plenty even at the end of the season.
 
UPDATE:

A member here ( thanks Ahsan ) just pointed out that the bobwhite does not have multichokes in 16 gauge, why I don't know. That is a deal breaker for me. looks like I will go for a 20 gauge instead, I just don't want to give up having the flexibility of multichokes.
 
16gauge LC Smith

A number of years ago,a dear pal of mine was selling his friend's sxs LC Smith in 16 bore.

He had it at a number of gun shows and slowly I was being convinced that I should buy it. It had been the pet shotgun for years of his good friend , now passed on.

Around the 4th time he had it at a show and after much fondling and appraisal by guys who appreciate such fine things, I was given the option of buying the gun over time. I'd heard all kinds of stories about 16's having ideal patterns, and being the perfect bore. It also came with a pile of ammo, which made the deal even sweeter, but I did need to be convinced.

The last year that lead shot could be used on waterfowl , my friend and I made a bird hunting trip to Saskatchewan. That little LC became quite a star, I'll never forget that trip. On both upland and ducks ... I have never shot more consistantly. My fav. shotgun ever.

I'm on the hunt now for some bismuth in 5's or 6's to use next year. If I can't locate some factory ammo, I may have to delve into reloading.....

btw... she is choked IC and Mod.

Lucky
 
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