17 Fireball

[todbartell]

well Remington has indeed introduced the 17 Fireball (aka 17 Mach IV) and is introducing it in a stainless fluted CDL similar to the 30-06 100th anniversary edition.

 

[cereal83]

Where can I read more about this? Anything that would make somebody pick this over just a normal 17 hmr? Is this caliber going to last?

 

[todbartell]

it shoots a 20 grain bullet @ 4000 fps, burning around 17-18 grains of powder

should be a fun little cartridge, I think it would be excellent for whacking crows, gophers, and other pests, as well as a moderate range coyote rifle that is great for low fur damage

http://www.remington.com/pdfs/07catalog-rifles.pdf

 

[bisonhd]

Anything that would make somebody pick this over just a normal 17 hmr?\

It's reloadable and therefore can be tinkered with. The 17 Remington and other 17 Wildcats have always had a small but strong following.

 

[prosper]

Where can I read more about this? Anything that would make somebody pick this over just a normal 17 hmr? Is this caliber going to last?

Well it already has a 40+ year history in 17 mach IV trim

 

[Chilly Willy]

how would the wind play on a 20 grain pill @4000 fps? can't see a real good use for this that already isn't being done by the 204 Ruger, 221 Fireball, 22-250, 223, 220 Swift, 17 hmr, etc. I guess it boils down to what floats your boat. I'm more interested in the Model 700 Alaskan Ti in 270 WSM and the Model Seven stainless fluted camo stock in 204 Ruger

 

[prosper]

The 20gr .172 vmax has a similar BC to the 40gr .224 vmax, so the 17 fireball at 4k would drift the same with the 20 gr as a 22-250 with the 40 gr at 4k.

Both will drift a lot more than the 204 with it's 32gr at 4200fps

 

[todbartell]

.185 is the BC of the 17 cal 20 gr Vmax

.200 is the BC of the 22 cal 40 gr Vmax


so, both launched @ 4000 fps, the drift in a 10 mph crosswind @ 400 yards is :

17 Fireball ~ 24.3"

22-250 ~ 21.9"

keep in mind, the 17 FB burns half the powder

 

[prosper]

24.3 vs 21.9 at 400 yards... so ~1/2 MOA of difference. The difference in drift between these is within the margin of error for most guns & shooters.

 

[riden]

I am curious, how hard are17 calibre bullets to find?

I don't recall seeing many.

 

[todbartell]

Hornady makes three, a 20 gr Vmax, 25 gr Vmax, and 25 gr Hollowpoint

Its about time Nosler makes a 17 cal Ballistic Tip me thinks

 

[BCWILL]

Hornady makes three, a 20 gr Vmax, 25 gr Vmax, and 25 gr Hollowpoint

Its about time Nosler makes a 17 cal Ballistic Tip me thinks

Thought you'd want a .17 TSX

 

[catnthehatt]

A friend used the Berger bullets for years, with excellent results in his .17 remington for 'yotes, and even took a wolf past 300 yards with it!
Cat

 

[tootall]

Repost!
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123378
sorry Tod, couldn't resist

 

[Yoteboy]

Tod ,
Aren't they also going to offer it in the Model 7 as well? If they are it would be an interesting walking varmit rifle.

 

[todbartell]

yep, Model Seven CDL, Model 700 CDL stainless fluted, 700 SPS, 700 SPS varmint, and 700 VSF

only the 20 grain Accutip load, which is a shame as people are going to try it on coyotes and I dont think it will gain a good reputation with that load for predators