17 hmr Cleaning rod - help me find a good one.

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Hi, I live in Kelowna and just bought a Savage 93r17 BTVS. It's the stainless heavy barrel, laminate thumbhole .17 and I really like it so far... Except I have no way of cleaning it. I went to Grouse River Outfitters a couple days ago and bought one box of every kind of 17 ammo they have and expected them to have the one piece cleaning rods too. The did not.

So where can I find a good .17 rod? It can be brass or carbon fibre or even aluminum if it needs to be, I just want to find one.


Thanks everybody,

Ryan
 
Check around for a Dewy or a Tipton, do not use an aluminum cleaning rod.One of the sponsors like P&D will have a cleaning rod for you. Even Wholesale Sports stocks them.
 
Other than when I mention them...I never see these discussed on here, but I'm a big fan of the Patchworm, and have both of the kits listed on this page; http://20-20.8m.com/patchworm.html Get some spare patches from them too, easy people to deal with. I have a huge aversion to sticking things down the bores of my rifles, so this product makes the most sense to me...especially for .17 cal. I have a Dewy rod for my .223, but often use the Patchworm if I'm in a rush anyway. If you decide to go the rod route, Dewy is worth the the money.
 
They cause unneccesary wear in the bore and the joint where they screw together has edges on it that do the same. Just run one through a bore a few times and notice how scratched it gets. Now think about what thats doing to your bore. I use tipton carbon fiber rods, they wont wear the bore anywhere near as much plus they dont hold onto grit. Dewey coated roads are good too and I think they cost a little less than tipton. My tiptons were about $50 each. Ive got one for .22 and one for .30+

*lawrence said:
Please educate me, what's wrong with aluminum cleaning rods?
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99.9% of the time I use a BoreSnake. So far, it really works well for me. I do own an aluminum rod set for the two times I have had to remove an obstruction from my more (had a squib and a stovepipe).
 
Please educate me, what's wrong with aluminum cleaning rods?
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They flex and rub on the rifling. As well,aluminum oxide forms on aluminum, and aluminum oxide is quite abrasive.

I will never use aluminum cleaning rods or bore snakes in any of my rifles, or handguns.
 
If you get an Otis kit make sure its not that minimalist kit that has the patch loop attached to the cable. They are useless as far as I'm concerned. I bought one for .22-.30 cal rifles, installed the patch as per instructions (I've used their kits before) and it got completely jammed in the throat and would not budge. The cable is too flimsy to push it back out and because they crimp the fitting on their you can't just unscrew it and use a cleaning rod to pop it out. I sent some pics to Otis and asked for suggestions to remove it and they didn't bother to reply, multiple times. I eventually used vice grips to twist and pull it out which destroyed the cable. Get the kit that has the cable threaded on both ends, never use the basic kit cos if it gets stuck its only comin out one way whether your bore likes it or not. On the contrary I love their shotgun kit. Just a heads up
 
supernova said:
They cause unneccesary wear in the bore and the joint where they screw together has edges on it that do the same. Just run one through a bore a few times and notice how scratched it gets. Now think about what thats doing to your bore. I use tipton carbon fiber rods, they wont wear the bore anywhere near as much plus they dont hold onto grit. Dewey coated roads are good too and I think they cost a little less than tipton. My tiptons were about $50 each. Ive got one for .22 and one for .30+
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Thanks!
 
I am using a carbon fibre rod from an RC airplane. I put some CA glue on the end and threade a brass jag over it. I made a handle from a larger CF rod and glued it on the end. No swivel, but cheap and solid. You can buy those CF rods in thirty six inch length for under ten bucks and the jag was around two dollars.
 
Why do you want to clean your gun? Only gonna shoot better the more rounds you pound down the tube. Clean it when your groups start to open up, folks clean too often in my opinion. FS
 
Why do you want to clean your gun? Only gonna shoot better the more rounds you pound down the tube. Clean it when your groups start to open up, folks clean too often in my opinion. FS
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The Anschutz manual recommends cleaning the 22lr every 1000 rounds for up to 10,000 rounds, then every 5,000 rounds.
 
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stubblejumper said:
The Anschutz manual recommends cleaning every 1000 rounds for up to 10,000 rounds, then every 5,000 rounds.
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That sounds alright for a rimfire .22, not so much for anything shooting jacketed.
And .17's have a bit of a rep for being pretty sensitive to fouling, but I would run with FS's advice, of clean when and if the accuracy falls off, and try keeping track of the frequency that it does, so you can stay a wee bit ahead of the curve.

Desperation source for a pull through, that could be modded into one that could connect to a screw end, is weedeater line. Gotta watch that it stays clean. A slice can be cut through the cord, or it can be sliced down to about half, and folded, to hold a patch.

Comes in thicknesses up beyond 1/8th inch dia. The heavy duty commercial stuff is pretty rugged. Like as not, stiff enough to push a brush down a bore with, some of it.

Cheers
Trev
 
That sounds alright for a rimfire .22, not so much for anything shooting jacketed.
And .17's have a bit of a rep for being pretty sensitive to fouling, but I would run with FS's advice, of clean when and if the accuracy falls off, and try keeping track of the frequency that it does, so you can stay a wee bit ahead of the curve.
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That is for the 22lr, I edited my post accordingly. I was just supporting Fassteel's statement that many people clean their rimfires, way more than required. I clean my 17Mach2 and 17HMR when the accuracy starts to go away, which can vary from 75 rounds to 200 rounds.

Is the Op shooting an Annie? FS
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He probably wishes that he was. I used the Anschutz example, because they actually specify a cleaning interval, and they have a reputation for producing top accuracy, so they should know what they are talking about.
 
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