17 Hornet?

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So I have a CZ Varmint in 17 Hornet. It shoots really well but I am just not a fan of the magazine hanging out the bottom. So I am looking at a couple options. Maybe..

First is a Ruger 77/17 with a really nice greenish laminated stock and a matte 24" stainless heavy barrel. My only concern is accuracy can be hit and miss. $900 plus taxes taxes.

Second is a Savage 25 with either black or camo synthetic stock and a heavy barrel 22" barrel. Not a fan of the thumbhole laminated stock. Concerns here are ejection problems and very long Bolt. Accuracy supposed to be good.

So thought folks? Pros and cons? Or just keep the CZ. Other I have considered is a TC Pro Hunter with MGM 17 Hornet barrel.
 
Given those choices, I would keep the CZ. My CZ shot very well, whereas my Ruger took some work, and was still not as accurate. My single shot Cooper is more accurate than either, but it isn't one of the options given.
 
I'd keep the Cz. I have one in .17 as well. Love it. There's a guy in Havre Montana that sells 3rnd flush fit magazines. Can't think of his name off the top of my head.

If you still want something different, Id love to try a TC with an MGM 17hornet barrel. Could be all kinds of fun
 
You guys are not making this easy.

lever the fellow you are thinking of is James Calhoon. I have looked at his stuff. Pretty neat. I would like of of his 3 shot mags, he also modifies the trigger guard. Just not sure if I could get one up here! I already have a Bob Sled single shot adaptor for the CZ.

May just have to reconsider this project. I guess I could just pick up the Savage and try it out before I do anything.
 
Yep that's the character, Calhoun. I'm sure prophet river or irun guns could get one for ya.

I've just not seen one of those savages that I liked. It's too bad really that they couldn't have just scaled down a mod 11 or similar. The 25 is just not the same gun. I do like savage rifles just not that one.
 
Since I asked for your advice I guess I should follow it. So I'll stick with my CZ since that seems to be the overwhelming recommendation. Wish I had the American instead of the Varmint. But oh well. First world problems eh!

Thanks guys.
 
ya the savage leaves a lot to be desired. the price was right it was a used gun. im gonna shoot it to see if the caliber fits my needs and if I like it then ill get a cz. it is louder than I expected.
 
can someone measure there fired brass for me, diameter wise right where the chamber stops. I am getting a very pronounced ring, or expansion, seems like a large diameter chamber or smaller than usual brass in the rear. mine measure .298 at the very rear of the brass that is still in the chamber. unfired measure .293-.294. this is factory ammo. the ring looks wrong
 
can someone measure there fired brass for me, diameter wise right where the chamber stops. I am getting a very pronounced ring, or expansion, seems like a large diameter chamber or smaller than usual brass in the rear. mine measure .298 at the very rear of the brass that is still in the chamber. unfired measure .293-.294. this is factory ammo. the ring looks wrong

I have the Savage 25 Lightweight Varminter; I have had it for almost a year now, and have put somewhere between 6-700 rounds down the barrel. About half were factory, the others handloads. I know the rifle, and cartridge, very well by now and like them both a lot. I don't have feeding problems at all, but do experience the occasional ejection failure. Never, ever a failure to extract from the chamber. I am becoming inclined to believe that the occasional ejection problems are related to the lots of brass. There have been many well documented issues with various lots of Hornady brass, and I have experienced all of these first hand. I haven't been systematic about tracking lots to ejection failures, but anecdotally I seem to experience this issue in episodes, and usually close together. Then I can go through several hundred rounds without experiencing it. I am suspecting that the failures I experience occasionally are from cases that originated with the same lot.

FYI, I have figured out that the year of manufacture of the Hornady factory ammo can be determined by the second and third digit of the lot number. They all start with a "3" followed by 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, etc. The newer manufactured stuff has been completely problem free. The rings that you are experiencing indicate a large chamber. In my Savage I get virtually no visible ring upon first firing of factory stuff. I have fired a lot of them.

To your original question, sounds like you've already made up your mind. And the CZ's are nice guns to be sure, but the Savage 25 gets a bad rap (and attributable to early bugs that needed working out from what I can tell), but mine has been perfect and the accuracy (especially with the factory stuff), is truly amazing. I like my model 25 a lot. There's no mistaking it's a Savage; the lines of the action are not particularly aesthetically pleasing, but I can live with that. It's a great gun. I also do not like the look of the box mag on the 527, but I could also live with that if the gun shot well otherwise.

I like the looks of the Ruger 77 a lot, but their triggers suck in general, and accuracy can be spotty, so for me that one wouldn't be an option for a cartridge with the accuracy potential of the .17 Hornet.
 
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My factory ammo is from lot number 315***** could you measure your brass and see what it measures? I found a chamber print online that seemed to say right in front of the rim should be .299. My fired brass is .298.
 
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