My best WTF was that??? shot on a gopher came from a 270 hotloaded with 110gr hp's, that gopher did 3 complete turns while launching 7 feet in the air, well, what was left of him that is....
Shot was under 40yds. Remington Accellerators did pretty close to that, but the bullets were a bit tough, need to replace with hp 50gr's to really have fun. 
Otherwisw known as the Red Mist Club.
From what the guys who own them say, the 17's will do that quite nicely though.


From what the guys who own them say, the 17's will do that quite nicely though.