17hmr?
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manbearpig
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youre looking at about $170 for a Ross Sporter Thumbhole for the 700 at Boyd's stocks.
plus shipping. several people have posted that they have not had any problems with customs getting these shipped into Canada. you can look in their 'specials' section sometimes they have stocks with a small blemish or chip or something on them that you can repair for around $80.
plus shipping. several people have posted that they have not had any problems with customs getting these shipped into Canada. you can look in their 'specials' section sometimes they have stocks with a small blemish or chip or something on them that you can repair for around $80.
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- Grande Prairie, Alberta
never even heard of it. how easy is it to find ammo? it hits harder and is cheaper than a .223?
manbearpig
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.22 Mag (or .22 WMR) looks like a .22LR but with an elongated case. its basically a .22LR with more powder.
the two are not even close in killing power, .22 WMR is shooting a 40 grain bullet at 1900 FPS and around 300 ft/lbs of energy while a .223 can put a 55 grain bullet at about 3300 FPS with about 1300 ft/lbs of energy. IMO no rimfire is much good beyond 100 yards, centerfire gives you far more options.
.22 WMR will cost less than half as much for ammo, since it is rimfire. honestly though i never really saw the need for an 'intermediate' cartridge between the .22LR and the .223. the .223 would be better suited for coyotes, and much more destructive on small varmints with cheap bulk winchester varmint ammo. you can get cheap surplus or winchester FMJ rounds for plinking.
i am in Ontario though - so our groundhogs are fat and far between. if you are out West and going to be shooting swarms of small prairie dogs you would be better off with a rimfire though - most people doing high-volume small varmint shooting eventually switch to rimfire for the ammo cost savings.
the two are not even close in killing power, .22 WMR is shooting a 40 grain bullet at 1900 FPS and around 300 ft/lbs of energy while a .223 can put a 55 grain bullet at about 3300 FPS with about 1300 ft/lbs of energy. IMO no rimfire is much good beyond 100 yards, centerfire gives you far more options.
.22 WMR will cost less than half as much for ammo, since it is rimfire. honestly though i never really saw the need for an 'intermediate' cartridge between the .22LR and the .223. the .223 would be better suited for coyotes, and much more destructive on small varmints with cheap bulk winchester varmint ammo. you can get cheap surplus or winchester FMJ rounds for plinking.
i am in Ontario though - so our groundhogs are fat and far between. if you are out West and going to be shooting swarms of small prairie dogs you would be better off with a rimfire though - most people doing high-volume small varmint shooting eventually switch to rimfire for the ammo cost savings.
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.22 Mag (or .22 WMR) looks like a .22LR but with an elongated case. its basically a .22LR with more powder.
the two are not even close in killing power, .22 WMR is shooting a 40 grain bullet at 1900 FPS and around 300 ft/lbs of energy while a .223 can put a 55 grain bullet at about 3300 FPS with about 1300 ft/lbs of energy. IMO no rimfire is much good beyond 100 yards, centerfire gives you far more options.
.22 WMR will cost less than half as much for ammo, since it is rimfire. honestly though i never really saw the need for an 'intermediate' cartridge between the .22LR and the .223. the .223 would be better suited for coyotes, and much more destructive on small varmints with cheap bulk winchester varmint ammo. you can get cheap surplus or winchester FMJ rounds for plinking.
i am in Ontario though - so our groundhogs are fat and far between. if you are out West and going to be shooting swarms of small prairie dogs you would be better off with a rimfire though - most people doing high-volume small varmint shooting eventually switch to rimfire for the ammo cost savings.
Actually if you look way up "Rusty", the original post was about the 17hmr.
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manbearpig
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Actually if you look way up "Rusty", the original post was about the 17hmr.
if you followed the thread:
'long range' rules out just about every rimfire, and none of them are ideal for coyotes.
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- Grande Prairie, Alberta
hmmm, i'll seriously consider the .223. my gopher trips are only about twice a year, since i live in BC and gophers are in alberta. but i have plenty of coyotes kicking around. i definitely want the long range ability. even when i'm not shooting animals, i like to plink out to 300+ yards.
manbearpig
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are you saying he should get a .22 WMR for long-range shots on coyotes?
because unless you are i fail to see the point of your last two posts.
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- Grande Prairie, Alberta
evolution, my dear win/64, evolution.
If you like the price you can expect very good accuracy from the savage
Most of the new models come with the accutrigger. It would be better to buy the accutrigger model at the time of original purchase. I am not aware that accutriggers are sold after market, however there are other triggers available.
yes
The gun is O.K. but, the HM2 does not live up to its original expectations. It is destined for discontinuation in the very near future.
The ruger is a very nice gun and feels a little like a center fire rifle, but it will cost more and I doubt that you will get better accuracy than the savage.
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- Grande Prairie, Alberta
ok. here's my idea. Stevens 200 in .223, laminate Bench Mark thumhole stock (black/grey), 6"-9" bipod and a BSA tactical-style scope. sound like a decent set up?
Actually til this evolved into a what kind of gun do I need for coyotes thread, I too would have suggested a .22 rimf. mag. More powerfull than a .17 and cheaper. It is much more than a long 22 long rifle. Many modern mags have higher velocity and jacketed bullets.
The firearm ones uses to shoot coyotes or deer is more of a legal issue than an ethical issue.
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Yes it does, however if you plan to use the bipod for anything other than off the bench, it seems too low. Here in Alberta, we get a lot of really flat land shooting, but in the prone it is very difficult to even get above prairie grass. Remember that the bore will be about 1.5 inches below line of sight. Other than the bipod, your choice is very good
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- Grande Prairie, Alberta
well, i have the same size bipod on my remington. i'm a pretty short guy (about 5'5"). anything larger is no good for prone or off a bench. i may just leave the bipod off and shoot using my pack or something as a rest. the last couple times we were shooting in alberta we were shooting prone out the box of our pickup trucks, grass height isn't a huge deal to me.
i had originally though i could use a 17HMR for yotes, but guess that's not the case. i suppose i should have made it more clear in the beginning exactly what i'd be using the gun as.
thanks for all the help.
I agree! Many use the mag. especially when calling! "Come here little yote, yip yip yip" BANG! FLOP!
manbearpig
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sounds good, pretty much the most bang for your buck. the Stevens/Savages are headspaced via a barrel nut so if you want to swap for a heavy barrel down the road you can pick up a Savage barrel nut wrench for $35 and a new barrel and install it yourself, there are many how-tos online.
when you take off the synthetic Stevens stock you can list it on the EE for $50-60 or so and recover some of your money. yes, people buy them as extra stocks to paint with other camo patterns or as beater stocks.
IMO stay the hell away from the BSA scopes - they are junk. get a Bushnell Elite 3200 at the least - theyre a good scope for the money and their service center is right here in Canada and they have lifetime warranties. Covey is right the 6-9 pod is too short for varminting in the field, even short grass or uneven ground will get in your way - get the medium sized one or just hold off on the pod and use your pack.
