180B, XCR, or swiss arms opnions please

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Guys, I need your opinion if you were considering a new non restricted black rifle, would you choose a AR 180B, XCR, Or a Swiss arms. I want to use as a coyote rig maybe the odd deer (kind of like the 6.8 spc option on the XCR)
I am leaning towards the XCR because of the options as far as Cal conversion and rail mounts. Opinions welcome.
 
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The last post on these subject barely got push off the first page and a month haven't gone by since the one before that, for the good of your fellow CGN'er please make an attempt at using the search function.
 
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If you want to look at more threads that are older than a week change the find posts from when you click on advanced search. Just helping you out since its your first post. Welcome to CGN :wave:

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If you want to look at more threads that are older than a week change the find posts from when you click on advanced search. Just helping you out since its your first post. Welcome to CGN :wave:

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Why the Admin won't set "and older" as default is beyond me........ vBulletin's search function is worst enough already........
 
Not that im a expert on these rifles I would probaly have to say get the xcr. Mind you switching out the barrels for different calibres is a costly from what I remember reading.

Ar180b is not in production and you would have to find a used one. Good luck with that search though as there is probaly about 1000 nutters on this board alone wanting one including myself.
 
I have no experence with the AR180.

The Swiss may be the best in terms of quality, but you pay for that, plus you can't hunt deer or other big game with .223

XCR.....I just got one in 7.62x39. Less $ than a Swiss. More than a used AR-180. Calibre conversions run about $700. Plenty-o-rails to hang stuff. Customer Srvc......when was the last time an employee from the Sig Arms or Armalite factory made posts and offered advice on CGN ?
 
I have finally gotten into the black/green gun world I went with one of the first 3 OD green XCR-L Standard's in 223 into Canada it showed up earlier last week.

The reason I went with the XCR is I do not like the feel of the other non-restricted rifles out there I've been to the range twice with it now .

I bought it to use for predator hunting so was very happy when I started getting 3/4" X 1 3/4" 10 shot groups @ 100 yards using a VX3 2.5-8X36mm B&C scope set on 8 power I can't do much better than that with any rifle combo I own when only on 8X.

I have a 4.5-14X40mm that I will eventually put onto the rifle but need to get taller rings so I can mount it properly first, I'm thinking I should with a little more work bring those groups down to 1/2 that size.

I also tried 300 yards and once I was able to figure out the hold I was grouping all shots (my own reloads) into 3" - 4"...

Definitely good enough for me.

The XCR conversion kits are another added bonus I have no interest in the 7.62 myself and I'm thinking a 6.8spc or 6.5 would make a nice deer round but I would prefer a 6mmAR if they ever chamber for it and I feel the best conversion will be a 6X45 (223 case necked to 6mm) which give excellent performance/accuracy and uses plentiful 223 brass plus I have over 1600 6mm/.243" sitting on my shelf that I have had for up to over 20 years now.

The best thing about an XCR is Terra (XCRMonger) she comes along with every rifle/handgun they sell the customer relations that she gives is above anywhere else I have ever had the pleasure of dealing with and if you ever have a problem she will be there looking after you faster than you can ever imagine.

I even received work in progress pictures... :D

Now for you people that post that OP's should do a search if you don't like the title of a post here is my suggestion to you don't waste your time reading it or even more of your time posting about doing a search.

Makes me think of wh*nny little cry bab*es boo hoo hoooo... :p
 
+1 for 6x45 conversion kits

+1000 for the ppl who waste time telling OP's to search better. There has to be a better way to increase your Post Count.
 
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