1853 Enfield

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Just brought home this sweet old thing. Not an original its a Parker Hale reproduction. Anyone ever use patched round ball out of these? I know you're supposed to use a Minnie type ball but I can't find any and its pretty obvious I will have to cast my own. But what I have found is 58cal round ball. The ball is .570cal and the bore is .577. Patched round ball should would fine no? Also, anyone who has one of these things mind to let me know what you use for a case? Its so long it doesn't fit in any of my cases and nothing at the gun shop was long enough. I ended up settling on two gun socks one on each end for now. The gun sure cleaned up nicely. Its too bad I didn't take a before picture because she was in sad shape. Left neglected and forgotten at the back end of a basement storage room. Id like to get the proper nipple cover for it though or even the original sights.

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The Parker hale enfield s are quality guns.I have one of the PH Enfield musketoons that I purchased a prichett bullet mould for made by NOE.Lyman and RCBS both produced bullet moulds made specifically for the PH Enfield rifles
 
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Here is a pic of my Parker Hale musketoon and my prichett mould.One thing though the NOE moulds are pricy worth it but pricy.Also I know some people have tried round ball in the musketoons with success so it may work in your gun as well.
 
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I love those sights - what make and model are they?

As for cases, I made a long sock out of leather. If you took your material of choice to a shoe/garment/canvas repair place they would sew one up in a jiffy.

Thanks for sharing.
 
Shooting a trail at Heffly some years back with a friend who had the Musketoon model. His load was 65 grns ffg, .565 round ball and 18 thou patch, he aced the trail except the string cut and had a clean 10 on the tie breaker.
 
Gary V said:
I love those sights - what make and model are they?

As for cases, I made a long sock out of leather. If you took your material of choice to a shoe/garment/canvas repair place they would sew one up in a jiffy.

Thanks for sharing.
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I'm not sure. They don't have any markings on them. They're definitely nice to look though and very easy to pick up a sight picture. The front sight is fine crosshairs kind of feels like I'm aiming a 1 power optic.

Thanks for the advice on the case. I think there is a guy out in Mission BC who makes custom leather stuff.

wr.sainsbury said:
Shooting a trail at Heffly some years back with a friend who had the Musketoon model. His load was 65 grns ffg, .565 round ball and 18 thou patch, he aced the trail except the string cut and had a clean 10 on the tie breaker.
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I just watched a Hickok 45 video on his Parker Hale Musketoon and he ran a patched round ball in the video just to show it works.

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Interested in obtaining one of these fine rifles so following with interest...Thanks..
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Where you looking for the Parker Hale or the newer Pedersoli reproductions?
 
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Hi,

Nice piece of kit.

Decades ago I had a PH Musketoon, that shot extremely well using FFF and a patched round ball. Regrettably I let it go.

I have since acquired a Pedersoli two band, and using the same load, it was very erratic in its accuracy, shooting predominantly low. I was considering tangent sights, and picked up a set of moulds to cast minie balls………, still working on that but it has been sidelined for the last while.

I also have a Snider Enfield, and have used Cabela gun socks to wrap them in.

I actually ended up acquiring complete Enfield nipple protectors off of EBay for them.

Enjoy shooting it.
 
Thanks for posting photos of your beautiful rifle. I'm a 'collector' of serial numbers for David Minshall, who not only runs Research Press and is the comps secretary for the UK MLAGB, but is a many-times long-range champion shooter, both nationally and in the Commonwealth. He is gathering together all the serial numbers of Parker-Hale replications of muzzleloading rifles and carbines, so if you would pull the barrel and let me know the proof dates and serial numbers of any P-H guns you might have, that would be great!

In case you are a bit leery of doing that, perhaps you could PM m instead. For those of you with Volunteer-type rifles on .451cal, note the early versions with have the serial number prefixed with the letter H, denoting Henry-style rifling.

Thanks in advance for any information.
 
The rear sight looks like a Thompson Centre for their Hawken rifle. Long out of production.
They are a good hunting and short range target sight, but don't have the fine adjustments of the higher priced target sights.
 
you have a nice rifle....i used my 1868 parker hale enfield for years in a friendly 15 to 20 team competition in kingston ....our 3 man team all shot my rifle ....the best load and a good one i worked up is 10 gr 3 f on the bottom for great ignition then 50 gr pyrodex rs then lubed lyman #575213ph bullet ...constant seating preasure 50 lbs this mould is still listed in lyman cat and was made for your gun you have progressive rifling read up on it thats why enfields shoot best.....your gun was made by ph on original tooling some time 60s 70s 80s but no more..........they were very expensive and very very well made need more info don
 
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