1894 Win Firing Pin Definitely Pre, 64

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So the other day I managed to pick-up an old 94. According to the web the serial number states manufactured..1899. A little rough on the outside and the previous owner stated it had a broken firing pin. I confirmed the pin was broken and a deal was made. A replacement pin is on order: thnkx Wild Bill. I stripped it down tonight, internals are in great shape for its age. But for the life of me I cannot figure out how to remove the firing pin..... I removed the bolt pin and assume since the purpose of that pin is to keep the firing pin on a specific axis you just rotate it to a specific position and out it pops. NOT happening... What am I missing?
 
:wave:I replaced the firing pin in my 94, Mfg. 1899 a few months ago and I seem to remember needing to take out two pins.
Both the lever pivot pin and the tiny pin a the back end of the bolt. My serial number is 1188xx, is that near yours?
Mine has a 26" octagonal barrel, 30-30 and even though it is in really rough shape, I love it!
 
Howdy... my # is 1727xx. Its a 26" octagon in 38-55. I can see three pins in the bolt. One at the back, one at the top and one at the very front. The front one is for the ejector, the top one is for the extractor and the back one is for the firing pin stop. So you figure you punched both the stop pin and the ejector pin....I'll give er a try thnkx

This is my second 38-55, the other is a long bbl high wall. This round is addicting :)
 
Let us know if you figure it out please. I have a 94 in 38-55 also and it is a 1901. My fireing pin is also needs replacing, i have yet to buy the parts though and im nervous to do it with out some knowledge because it is in good shape and a family heirloom.

Thanx
Walter
 
Well...that last pin will NOT come out. I'm going to soak it some Kroil and try it again tomorrow. Walter, I found a great youtube at Gunworks. He strips a more modern version but most of it applies to the old ones too. The bolt itself is quite different though, you have to remove the lifter plate before you can pull it out the back of the reciever. And that firing pin does not easily fall out the back of the block.. I'll let ya know how I get it out.
 
Well..the firing pin is out. I soaked the bolt in Kroil last night. This morning I looked again at the exploded diagram and a picture of the firing pin. Aside from that stop pin there was nothing that should be holding it back, the pin moved freely in the distance the stop pin allowed so... I put a pin punch down the firing hole and started tapping. Seems a 100 years of neglect can really gum things up, the clearance between the pin and the the bolt barrel were just crudded up.

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Very Nice! Wow that whole lever action is complicated, I must have blocked out of my mind how tricky it was to get everything back together.
Apparently, broken firing pins are a common thing with these old rifles, someone told me it is a result of dry firing, but I don't understand how
that causes the tip to break off. Any insight?:confused:
 
No real world experience with it before. But when I look at how the pin is built there is a shoulder at the base of the actual pin projection and that’s where the pin broke off. My guess, and guess it is, is that when there is no resistance for the pin to hit i.e. the primer; the shoulder impacts the inside face of the bolt and over many dry fires, inertia takes over and the pin separates.
I did find out that there are actually two styles of firing pin, a #1 and a #2, you want to ensure you have a #2. According to records only the first 35,000 have the #1 but....+100 yr old records, ya never know.
 
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