1905 ross rifle questions with pics!

Ross IIIB rifles were made for the British; second line use. Some were supplied to the Whites, used in the Russian Civil War. Captured by the Reds. Supplied by the Soviets to the Mac-Paps during the Spanish Civil War. Captured by the Fascists. Sold off surplus along with all the old Spanish Mausers by Franco's government. I'd love to find a IIIB with the Barcelona Arsenal mark. Some made it to North America, but I suspect most are in the US.
In 1939, Canada held more Ross rifles, both Mk.II and Mk.III than Lee Enfields. About 120,000. Some Mk. IIIs went to Britain for the Home Guard, other Rosses were used in basic training camps in Canada.
 
mrclean89: I have a younger brother to yours, built 1911. My stock is marked II**, 102 over 1911, R.S.A. over 2, 12.11, Crown, Quebec,C broad arrow inside a circle, 847 on the palm grip, plus it has the remnants of a sight mounted on the four holes, plus the same Sutherland sight on the barrel. Sadly, Bubba cut the fore part of the stock, but not the barrel.

If anyone is interested, I can take some pics and post them after supper. :)
 
You could push the pin, and move the rear sight back to the bridge.

Checked my Ross parts, and have only one Mk. II nosecap - and it is with a barrelled action. One of these days I should get going and restock it.
 
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Gov'tGrant said:
Threads like this are why I love this subforum so much! Great pictures and great info, learn something new every time I come here.
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Sorry for filling your brain with information. We'll waste your time some other way next time.

The problem with most of the answers being given is the authors are just remembering stuff they've read or surfed onto. It is not necessarily new scholarship, but reasonably good studiousness.
 
kjohn said:
tiriaq: That is something (among much more) that I didn't know! I wrongly presumed that the rear sight was just abandoned. Neat! Thanks for sharing that! :)
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Kjohn- The rifle sights are completely correct as they are. I've had one just like it and with a very close serial number too.

The rear stamped bridge was to make the Brits happy so they'd allow them for target shooting IIRC. It allowed charger loading.
Mine also had the same Sutherland Mk II sight on the barrel and it's correct to have no sight on that kind of bridge.

If you put a sight on it, it will be sticking up at 20 degrees even when put down.

I also had a problem with the leaf spring on the bridge snapping off when a sight was put on...that sucks.

Too bad someone cut the forend off...why they did that is beyond me.
 
Kjohn the sight that your missing is pictured in post 8 left or right . it is different than the one on the barrel but also made by Sutherland.
 
mrclean89, I have a nearly identical rifle to yours, except mine has no extended bayonet lug. Also, from what I can tell, it was either scrubbed extensively or there were never any stock markings.

I'll have to get some pics up.

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The guy I bought mine from claims it was a Mk II commercial. Hate to admit it, but I haven't really done a lot of digging around on it :redface:

The pics:

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The marking on the rights side of the barrel are a lot lighter, and a complete ##### to photograph with my POS camera.

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That is one gorgeous rifle Echo!!! Early Commercial Mk II**.


(((Echo))) said:
The guy I bought mine from claims it was a Mk II commercial. Hate to admit it, but I haven't really done a lot of digging around on it :redface:

The pics:

Ross-1_zpsexkkjvjj.jpg


Ross-2_zpslt7hujx2.jpg


Ross-3_zpsk1fqf30c.jpg


Ross-4_zpsyiuipr8o.jpg


Ross-5_zpsd2naakmy.jpg


Ross-6_zpsrtyhyxkt.jpg


Ross-7_zpscvsgw7gj.jpg


The marking on the rights side of the barrel are a lot lighter, and a complete ##### to photograph with my POS camera.

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Echo- Because yours is a Commercial, it never had any stock markings. It will have a stamped serial number on the left side of the chamber.


(((Echo))) said:
mrclean89, I have a nearly identical rifle to yours, except mine has no extended bayonet lug. Also, from what I can tell, it was either scrubbed extensively or there were never any stock markings.

I'll have to get some pics up.

(E) :cool:
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(((Echo))) said:
The guy I bought mine from claims it was a Mk II commercial. Hate to admit it, but I haven't really done a lot of digging around on it :redface:

The pics:

Ross-1_zpsexkkjvjj.jpg


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The marking on the rights side of the barrel are a lot lighter, and a complete ##### to photograph with my POS camera.

(E) :cool:
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But at least we didn't have to look at your stocking'ed toes. And ditto what Cantom says. Very nice. Its condition shows it had a much easier life than any service rifle, simply because it has been privately owned all along.
 
Might as well post my MK.II*** which is also drilled for the sight bridge. This one was made in 1910.




It's also stamped for the OCRA which may be Ontario county rifle association.

 
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