1910 Ross magazine issue

[Tinman204]

As some of you may know I bought a Ross m1910 yesterday. I verified that the gun was safe to fire and loaded 3 rounds and fired one at a time. When I inspected the cases they looked good so I decided to load the magazine and fire another 5 rounds. The first round fired and ejected but I couldn't chamber the next round. The cartridges were hard to load into the magazine and won't chamber when the bolt is slid forward. The magazine seems fine, the spring and internals seem to be all there but there's a piece of metal at the back of the magazine at the top that seems to be stopping the cartridges from moving up so the bolt can chamber them.

Here's some pics of what's going on.
The magazine is empty in this pick, there's a shiney spot on the metal tab where the back of the brass sits where it appears maybe something has broken off?

In this pic I loaded a cartridge but it is getting stuck on the piece of metal and is too low for the bolt to engage it.

With a pocket knife if I gently slide the round forward it then springs up and the can be chambered.

My question is, is there a piece broken off or do I need to do a little work to that metal to make the round slide past it?

EDIT: after posting I tried different ammo, then the Privi that I tried to load earlier. The new ammo is imperial and it won't even fit in the magazine. Could that piece be bent forward and that's why the rounds won't chamber???

 

[stripperclipper]

When I first brought home my ross, I had trouble chambering rounds too. I was very disheartened but soon realized it was a loading issue. Make sure the rim on the top cartridge is ahead of the rim on the cartridge below it. That was my problem, and I haven't had an issue since.

 

[H Wally]

That tab should be parallel to the back of the mag - IE strait up and down. Someone appears to have hammered on it for some reason.

 

[buffdog]

It looks like someone, who had absolutely no clue on how to put a Ross bolt back into the rifle, has attempted to put the bolt in while the bolt lugs were in the vertical position. When finding out that it would not go, the "if it does not fit, use a bigger hammer" school of thought prevailed, and the clown attempted to hammer the bolt into the rifle.

Meanwhile, the locking lugs were up against the back end of the magazine, and bent the back wall forward under pressure of a heck of a blow.

Take the rifle apart, take the magazine out of it, and then straighten the bent part of the back wall of the magazine so that is straight in line with the rest of the back wall. It should then load from the magazine.

 

[H Wally]

It looks like someone, who had absolutely no clue on how to put a Ross bolt back into the rifle, has attempted to put the bolt in while the bolt lugs were in the vertical position. When finding out that it would not go, the "if it does not fit, use a bigger hammer" school of thought prevailed, and the clown attempted to hammer the bolt into the rifle.

Meanwhile, the locking lugs were up against the back end of the magazine, and bent the back wall forward under pressure of a heck of a blow.

Take the rifle apart, take the magazine out of it, and then straighten the bent part of the back wall of the magazine so that is straight in line with the rest of the back wall. It should then load from the magazine.

This sounds highly probable, though how in gods name you'd get the bolt in that position past the back of the receiver is beyond me. It is daily astounding how much brute force the average fudd will use to correct a problem when looking for the problem first would usually solve the issue.

 

[smellie]

You should also be aware that the 1910 Ross has a built-in MAGAZINE CUTOFF as a part of the Bolt Stop.

There are THREE positions possible for the Bolt Stop:

Flap UP: normal Repeat fire.

Flap OUT: remove the Bolt.

Flap DOWN: single-loading rounds with Magazine in reserve. This was popular on military rifles at that time; the 1903 Springfield is the same. The operation is simple: the Stop simply prevents the Bolt from moving far enough to the rear to engage a round. To single-load, you drop the round onto the top of the top round in the mag and the Bolt will pick it up while chambering. You do NOT toss the round INTO the Chamber because this can wreck an Extractor...... and they are few and far between.

Hope this helps.

 

[Tinman204]

Thanks guys! I was going to take it apart anyway, wow was this thing dirty! A quick straightening of the back of the magazine and now she works. I figured it had to be bent after I took it apart but figured I would ask before potentially butchering such a nice classic rifle. I gotta say I love my no1 mk3 but there's something about the Ross that may make it my new favorite.