Some would argue the “new” shelf to be less safe as the sear can slip off it compared to the older hook design which actually captures the sear.
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Well if the 70 has the better trigger, that would be my choice as there’s no need to #### with shims and such.
I’m not to concerned about a butterfinger moment,cause I’m only at the range.
And only time it’s cocked is when I’m ready to shoot.
I’m not to concerned about a butterfinger moment,cause I’m only at the range.
And only time it’s cocked is when I’m ready to shoot.
I agree the principle behind it was that the hammer wouldn't be going fast enough to bang off a round.
Better is subjective and most people wouldn't notice a difference if you handed then one of each to try. If I had a choice it would be a 70 however I wouldn't pass on a gun I liked because it was a 80.
A lot of the competition guns are series 70 for the simple reason they have less moving parts and are easier to work on. My SAM is a series 70 and it it incredibly easy to detail strip. There is minimal tool use. Most everything can be removed using a punch.
Yup, agreed.
I find tinkering with a 1911 more fun than any other gun I own. The design is so simple yet functions with great reliability.
I agree with Skaol that I wouldn’t avoid a particular gun because it was a series 80. I’m sure there are pros and cons for both. If we broke down the differences between gun manufactures based on safeties, moving parts or ease of disassembly/assembly we might find ourselves with limited options.
Maybe the only choice would be a Colt series 70 1911.
To throw a wrench into the gears here, there is another “plunger” style firing pin safety that’s in play. It’s called a Swartz safety. It uses a link from the grip safety to release the firing pin safety. S&W and Kimber use it.
Most modern pistols have a plunger-style firing pin safety. Colt adapted the design to the 1911 when it came out with the Series 80. Some other 1911 makers (i.e. Kimber and S&W) use the 'Schwartz' safety, which is unlocked when the grip safety is depressed. Another popular solution is to use a lightweight titanium firing pin that does not have enough kinetic energy to overpower the spring and ignite the primer in the event of a drop. This allows the manufacturer to skip the firing pin safety and still pass the drop tests. STI, Springfield and a few other use titanium firing pin safeties. Even modern Colt Series 70 reproduction guns have titanium firing pins. To the best of my knowledge, no one makes a Series 70-style gun with a traditional steel firing pin anymore, with the possible exception of Asian and Turkish manufacturers.
