1911 Bushing or bull barrel no bushing

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I've always gone with a 1911 old style with bushing. Most are full length guide rod ,but I'm ok either way. There's something about
the barrel rubbing directly on the slide during cycling that I just can't get around. I've seen all the big makers that offer guns with reverse guide rods
if they have them show the benefits of those bull barrels but the thought of wear directly on the slide vs a bushing ...... what are your thoughts? I've been told that there is minimal contact. Gunsmiths please weigh in
 
Just about every modern pistol out there has no bushing and straight barrel to frame lock up. Bushing is fine and can produce excellent accuracy as long as its fit tight to the slide and barrel. By eliminating the bushing, you eliminate one extra area of fitting required, and one less area for things to come loose.
 
I prefer a barrel bushing,,,, I have never saw one worn out but ,,,,at least you can get a new one if you need to ,,,, that sits better with me for some reason ,,,, but I have no comparative info on bull barrels personally ..... people here and there swear by em ,,,,
im sure there fine either way .....
im not a gun smith ..... just know enough, to know what I like at the moment...... that changes all the time .....
I believe its probably just like everything else ...as the cost to manufacture goes up, things get cheaper, Manufactures say its better or unnessasary ....... Maby maby not ,,, seams clear to me .....
 
Hitzy, many manufacturers produce guns today with barrel bushings. Les baer doesn't even offer a bushingless barrel option. But for sure you are right it is one less manufacturing
step. In most cases bushingless barrels are seen on compact 1911's for practicality and on full size guns for what is seen as benefit. There are many who claim a bull barrel" san "bushing is the way to go. There are many gun rags that seem to back it up. Gunsmiths weigh in please
 
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Hitzy, many manufacturers produce guns today with barrel bushings. Les baer doesn't even offer a bushingless barrel option. But for sure you are right it is one less manufacturing
step. In most cases bushingless barrels are seen on compact 1911's for practicality and on full size guns for what is seen as benefit. There are many who claim a bull barrel" san "bushing is the way to go. There are many gun rags that seem to back it up. Gunsmiths weigh in please
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I wasn't refering to 1911's, but more modern gun designs....SIG/Glock/S&W etc....but of course not THIER version of the 1911 either lol
 
I'm not a gunsmith but I own an STI Ranger II with a bushingless heavy barrel and the thought about wear crossed my mind so when I was at the SHOT Show last year I went to STI and asked their general manager. He told me that if wear was ever a problem they could provide an oversize barrel to restore the original tight lock up. He also told me (and this is the important point) that they had never had to do that with one of their guns. Maybe he was BSing me but he didn't seem to feel it was a problem I was going to encounter.
 
Amazing how many "Minor calibre" guns have no bushing. A lot of 380's (Colt even got rid of it on the later hammerless models)
Most non 1911 style nine's don't have it. When your barrel is lined up you don't need it they say. Hey I get it. I'm talking only 1911's.
 
The CZ75 is a no bushing design. But CZ just introduced a version with a bushing. Apparently much more accurate and quite expensive too.
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In my experience, besides ammo related problem, the 1911 bushing is the #1 failure point.
have personally seen five 1911 fail because of bushing related problem
 
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