1911 guru's...I need your insight.

[Painkillers]

The saga continues:

This Norinco/Nighthawk Commander is going to be the end of my last nerve. I took it to the range today with 3 magazines (all 7 rounders) and a couple hundred rounds of 230 gn, brass cased ball ammo.
Gun was clean and lubed prior to first rounds.
I started with the Chinese Norinco Magazine. I insert the mag on an open slide and slingshot the gun...nope, the round is shoved nose first into the barrel ramp. I clear the gun and note the mag lips are holding the rounds slightly more horizontally than the other two mags (Mec Gar).

I insert a Ruger MecGar mag on an open slide, and slingshot. It chambers and runs that magazine. Perfect!
I insert the other MecGar mag on an open slide and slingshot. It chambers. I fire and the slide is locked partially open at the rear of the mag. An unfired round is in the chamber. I clear the magazine and the live round in the chamber and top off the magazine with that round. I insert the magazine on an open slide, slingshot it and again, the slide stops dead at the rear of the magazine (slide partially open), with a live round in the chamber.

The gun appears to "bump" a round out of the mag, and the slide stops dead at the magazine...guys, I'm stumped. The slide should be shearing a round off the magazine as it closes to battery...this thing is bumping them out of the magazine like curling rocks.

Any insight appreciated.

 

[ShrtRnd]

Have you considered replacing your mag springs? It/they maybe weak not allowing the follower to sit properly thereby allowing the round not to sit properly going into the ramp and allowing the second one to creep forward causing the partial slide locks you mention.

 

[Painkillers]

Have you considered replacing your mag springs? It/they maybe weak not allowing the follower to sit properly thereby allowing the round not to sit properly going into the ramp and allowing the second one to creep forward causing the partial slide locks you mention.

The one mag, the Ruger, is a brand new magazine. Maybe a year old.

 

[derek2007]

My money is on the Extractor. Sounds like it's worn or doesn't have enough tension.

I had a similar issue on my Norinco Commander double feed and jam with high end ammo.

I removed the extractor and gave it a little Bend popped it back in and ran great until gifted it to my new pal buddy before commie rule in Canada.

Was the extractor changed or still OG Norinco?

 

[derek2007]

They make tools and jigs for this but I just used vise grips and a small adjustable on the front half and adjusted it a little to grab stronger. Worked perfectly for me

 

[Painkillers]

It's a Nighthawk extractor, I can give it more tension.

Thanks.

 

[barsik]

I wonder if your magazine catch is the cause? maybe that little spring is broken or the screw somehow backed itself out.

 

[marshall]

Stick a finger under the mag and push up while shooting, I have seen mags sitting too low and will jam the ammo into a poor fitted barrel to frame.
if your finger catches on the barrel ramp, ammo will also. Not a good practice to palm the mag, see it with new shooters sometimes before training.
I have never used much of that Al. ammo, but when I did , I had no problem, but I was running a clark barrel in mine.

The main problem with the Norinco guns where usally the crappy mags, but at the price these use to ne new, they usally ran OK. ( with hardball ammo).