I dont know if it is ammo related, (I am using Norinco ammunition) I have a 1911 in 45 ACP and it has started to extract the case only 1/4 - 1/2 of the way before the slide stops completely and becomes locked up. A couple of hard raps forward closes the slide on the empty round and normal cycling of the slide to fire again. This occurs every second or third round now and is a PIA. what is causing the short cycle? I am using Dlask 8 round mags and they have not been an issue. Any suggestions?
1911 Norinco failure to extract?
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Sounds like a timing issue rather than an extraction issue.Strip the gun and check for any damage to the locking lugs or something in the locking lugs causing failure of the barrel to drop out of battery.Another possibility is a broken barrel link or bulged barrel.Also make sure that the chamber area isnt damaged.Unlikely to be the ammo,Norinco ammo is dirty stuff but works pretty well.With the gun disssasembled,make sure the slide moves easily over the frame and that the bushing isnt binding on the barrel
And definitely,dropping the slide on an already chambered round is a sure way to ruin/chip an extractor on a 1911.Unlike other(more modern designs),the 1911 is a controlled feed which means that the round feeds up from underneath the extractor rather than snapping over it like a eg Glock
And definitely,dropping the slide on an already chambered round is a sure way to ruin/chip an extractor on a 1911.Unlike other(more modern designs),the 1911 is a controlled feed which means that the round feeds up from underneath the extractor rather than snapping over it like a eg Glock
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Depends on how the extractor is tuned / shaped -- shaped right and you can have a more reliable gun and it will feed both ways
This sounds more like what I am talking about. I am not dropping the slide on an already chambered round. the slide is binding either on the spring guide or bushing. The extractor is not being an issue here.
Perhaps i am over lubing? I will clean and lube minimally to see if there is a difference.
can the spring guide be the culprit?
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What makes the barrel drop/ lift is the Barrel link/ link pin/Slide stop and the ramp under the barrel
Dirt behind lower barrel lugs ??? or too long /work barrel link
There was also another post in the last 2-3 months and the problem was ramped lugs under the barrel were machined wrong one side was cut wrong
Barrel was twisting and jamming
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Agree that this is not an extractor issue,the fact that the case rim is till engaged with the extractor suggests this.The case coming slightly out of the chamber and then the gun binds up,isnt typical of an extractor issue but rather one of some mechanical interefernce.Best to do a process of elimination as to what is binding,dissasemble the gun and add parts back to see if you can figure out whats binding.Try cycling the gun without the spring guide/plug or recoil spring.Try sliding the bushing over the barrel.Is there any wear on the slide stop(stop slipping out slightly while firing the gun)You should be able to detect any binding.Look for any rubbed ares on the parts looking for binding.Has the gun worked well for awhile and then has caused an issue or is the gun new and this is happening new out the box?
Its pretty difficult to overlube a 1911,they need to be run wet and underlubing is more likely to cause problems.
Barring something that would be obvious just by looking at the internals, it seems most likely a timing problem. The fact that it has progressed is significant, I think. Unless you're really on your smithing game, or really want the experience, I'd consider trying to get it warrantied. Timing is generally not generally a problem that can be fixed with a "drop in" solution.
First confirm that it is not related to the magazines. Look for abnormal wear on the feed lips, try some different models. Check for anything funky on the underside of the slide, including the guide rod, spring, and buffer if you have one.
Also, have you had the same problem with factory ammo?
First confirm that it is not related to the magazines. Look for abnormal wear on the feed lips, try some different models. Check for anything funky on the underside of the slide, including the guide rod, spring, and buffer if you have one.
Also, have you had the same problem with factory ammo?
Try taking the barrel out of the gun then compare a live factory round and a fired case in the chamber...if the fired case sticks in the chamber check it with a micrometer to see if it is bulged out compared to a factory round.
Yes you can break an extractor by dropping the slide on a chambered round, i have done it when I was new to the 1911
Yes you can break an extractor by dropping the slide on a chambered round, i have done it when I was new to the 1911
