1916 Moisin Nagant - pic heavy

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I am in the process of buying a nice old Model 1916 Moisin Nagant from the estate of a deceased friend. It was made by Remington Armory in 1917. It appears that the original serial number on the barrel and the bolt match, but there are two more numbers plus some other "signs" on the receiver. There are several places on the stock where round plugs have been put in where a flaw or knot would have been. It is also stamped SA inside the square in two places, close together, two different sizes. The magazine floorplate has a number that has been lined out, with the same number re-stamped just above, but in smaller sized numbers. It is a very interesting old rifle. There is a good write-up on these rifles here: http://www.texastradingpost.com/militaria/usmosin.html

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Finn Mosin

And with an SA stamp as well! Check the stock at the junction under the sight. If there is a finger joint, your stock is a Finn replacement made out of arctic birch (looks like it on the buttstock pic).
The round wooden patch looks like a filler for a brass unit disk which later on was removed to avoid giving away the name of the units on the battlefield in the event of a capture.
You're a lucky guy: Finn Mosins are usually tuned and more accurate than their Russian counterparts. And they are very collectible. http://7.62x54r.net/
Do not alter that rifle; just clean and oil it.
Ah, forgot: shoot it, too!
PP.
 
PerversPépère said:
And with an SA stamp as well! Check the stock at the junction under the sight. If there is a finger joint, your stock is a Finn replacement made out of arctic birch (looks like it on the buttstock pic).
The round wooden patch looks like a filler for a brass unit disk which later on was removed to avoid giving away the name of the units on the battlefield in the event of a capture.
You're a lucky guy: Finn Mosins are usually tuned and more accurate than their Russian counterparts. And they are very collectible. http://7.62x54r.net/
Do not alter that rifle; just clean and oil it.
Ah, forgot: shoot it, too!
PP.
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There are several of these "patches"on the stock. They are simply patches, put in place to fill bad spots. The stock is finger-jointed. If only some of these old rifles could talk!

My friend, who owned the rifle, also had an interesting story, which he can no longer tell. Some years back, he conquered a serious problem with alcohol. He had also battled with a fear of firearms. When he got back on his feet, he took a Dale Carnegie course. He told me that one of the things he learned was to face his fears and do something positive towards dispelling them. He went out and bought a .22 rifle, handled it, shot it, and found that he actually liked shooting. It's all history after that. He was one of the three of us who all chipped in to pay for a dealer's licence. Needless to say we bought guns and more guns, and tons of ammo. Oh, did that man ever love shooting!
 
The stock mods will be after the rifle was taken into service by the Finns, post-independence. Finland was a Duchy of the Russian Empire until 1917; lots of Russian rifles left there when the Empire fell apart and the Bolshies took over.

Very nice original Imperial stampings..... and with the SA as well.

Sure be nice if some of these could talk.....
 
Lefty-righty...

PerversPépère said:
The round wooden patch looks like a filler for a brass unit disk which later on was removed to avoid giving away the name of the units on the battlefield in the event of a capture.
PP.
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Should have looked closer: that patch is on the left side...ha:
And it is right bang on a knot, so it was simply a repair. Finns were very skilled in repairing wood stocks. One often finds older russian buttstocks spliced with an arctic birch front end on Finn rifles.
That's what makes Finn Mosins so interesting: each one has a different story to tell.
PP. :)
 
PerversPépère said:
Finns were very skilled in repairing wood stocks. One often finds older russian buttstocks spliced with an arctic birch front end on Finn rifles.
That's what makes Finn Mosins so interesting: each one has a different story to tell.
PP. :)
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You'd be correct on that one! The stock on my Finnish M91 was certainly abused in combat (cracks, bangs, shrapnel hits...you name it!) and they managed to repair all the major damage and field a reliable rifle at the same time. Considering the conditions Finland was under during the Winter War and Continuation War, it just makes the story of each Finnish rifle that much more amazing.

If only these rifles could talk, the stories they would tell you.
 
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