1935 Peruvian 7.65 Mauser carbine
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Well I paid 350 for mine with a m/m bolt. Otherwise its in good to vg condition. A matching bolt would probably bring a bit more as they are somewhat hard to find in a Peruvian milsurp. Apparently they had a policy of storing bolts separate from the rifles and as a result m/m bolts are the norm.
I'd say around the 400 mark would be a reasonable price.
I'd say around the 400 mark would be a reasonable price.
At the last Orangeville gun show, there was a guy who had 2 of them. Though I've come to the conclusion that prices vary greatly from region to region, he was asking $275. apiece and they didn't sell at that price.
Were I not on reduced hours & short on space, I would have taken both IF the bores were decent.
It really does depend on the region.
It also depends on the knowledge of the shooter collectors in the area.
A Russian capture in good condition will bring $600-$700 just about anywhere, because they have been advertized to death.
The South American Mausers, even though German made and identical to their European counterparts draw turned up noses.
This really is confusing, most of the SA Mausers have seen as much battle action as any of the European fielded pieces.
I think this relates to the Spanish Mauser influence. Not sure why though, other than many of the SA nations are of Spanish/Portuguese origins.
Spanish Mausers have a bloody history as well. Most are well made but well worn as well.
The SA Mausers available now will be the last of them. The UN ATT will make sure of that. Now is the time to pick up these gems. If you snooze, you will lose.
The 7.65x53 cartridge, is a very potent and capable round. The cases and bullets for handloading are available. They take the same .311-.312 diameter bullets as the 303 British.
I like SA Mausers. What I like about them is that I can pick up almost impossible to find European variants for 1/3 the price, made by the same European companies but with South American crests and usually in far better condition.
Surplus 7.65 ammunition dried up many years ago. Privi and a few others are making it again as it is a very common cartridge in other parts of the world. Components are also available.
Take a good look at those rifles. They are well made, often well cared for and relatively cheap. Just like Japanese rifles. Very under appreciated and under valued.
If you get the chance to snap up one of these rifles, don't be afraid, unless of course it's beat to hell and has a rust pitted bore. Other than those caveats, they will be a good investment and great shooters.
It also depends on the knowledge of the shooter collectors in the area.
A Russian capture in good condition will bring $600-$700 just about anywhere, because they have been advertized to death.
The South American Mausers, even though German made and identical to their European counterparts draw turned up noses.
This really is confusing, most of the SA Mausers have seen as much battle action as any of the European fielded pieces.
I think this relates to the Spanish Mauser influence. Not sure why though, other than many of the SA nations are of Spanish/Portuguese origins.
Spanish Mausers have a bloody history as well. Most are well made but well worn as well.
The SA Mausers available now will be the last of them. The UN ATT will make sure of that. Now is the time to pick up these gems. If you snooze, you will lose.
The 7.65x53 cartridge, is a very potent and capable round. The cases and bullets for handloading are available. They take the same .311-.312 diameter bullets as the 303 British.
I like SA Mausers. What I like about them is that I can pick up almost impossible to find European variants for 1/3 the price, made by the same European companies but with South American crests and usually in far better condition.
Surplus 7.65 ammunition dried up many years ago. Privi and a few others are making it again as it is a very common cartridge in other parts of the world. Components are also available.
Take a good look at those rifles. They are well made, often well cared for and relatively cheap. Just like Japanese rifles. Very under appreciated and under valued.
If you get the chance to snap up one of these rifles, don't be afraid, unless of course it's beat to hell and has a rust pitted bore. Other than those caveats, they will be a good investment and great shooters.
That is what the manuals tell you to do, BUT I tried it with Remington 30-06 brass and I ended up with necks so thick at the base there was NO room for neck expansion. If you use 7mm Mauser cases the necks will be normal and you have far less to trim off the neck.
A few years ago, I was in a pinch and just couldn't locate any 7.65x53 brass or ammo. Not even a few milsurp rounds with Berdan primers.
I ran a couple of 6.5x55 cases through the sizing die, without using the expander/decapping pin rod.
I did trim them down to proper length, then ran them into the chamber of the rifle I wanted to handload for.
I was lucky, they fit the chamber nicely.
Then, I ran them back through the sizing die with the expander/decapping pin rod in place. Nope, to big a bump for the expander I had on hand.
I borrowed another expander from a 7mm die and tried it again. The brass, was new and it swaged to the 7mm sizes easily. Then I took the other couple of rounds, did the same thing and then ran them over the the .311 expander. It worked fine and all I had to do was make up another 20 rounds from the brass I had on hand.
I suspect 7.5x54 French brass would work as well but that can be a nightmare to find as well.
If you decide to try the 6.5x55 brass, don't do a whole bunch at first. Make up a couple and make sure they will fit. Most milsurps, have fairly generous chambers and it should work for you as well.
Caveat - Make sure to full length resize.
I ran a couple of 6.5x55 cases through the sizing die, without using the expander/decapping pin rod.
I did trim them down to proper length, then ran them into the chamber of the rifle I wanted to handload for.
I was lucky, they fit the chamber nicely.
Then, I ran them back through the sizing die with the expander/decapping pin rod in place. Nope, to big a bump for the expander I had on hand.
I borrowed another expander from a 7mm die and tried it again. The brass, was new and it swaged to the 7mm sizes easily. Then I took the other couple of rounds, did the same thing and then ran them over the the .311 expander. It worked fine and all I had to do was make up another 20 rounds from the brass I had on hand.
I suspect 7.5x54 French brass would work as well but that can be a nightmare to find as well.
If you decide to try the 6.5x55 brass, don't do a whole bunch at first. Make up a couple and make sure they will fit. Most milsurps, have fairly generous chambers and it should work for you as well.
Caveat - Make sure to full length resize.
What is quick and easy is making the stuff up from FIRED .308/7.62NATO brass.
Just run it through your FL size die, load up with a light load.
On first firing, visually check that the extractor is holding the case to the Bolt face, fire it off.
On NEXT loading it's okay to go full-house. By this time, your cases will be ONE millimetre short; you can fire several times without having to think about trimming.
The two cartridges are almost identical; why NATO didn't just use the 7.65 is down to ONE factor: it ain't American and didn't have several million bucks in US Army development funding into it. As a factory load, it duplicated the.303 British, just in a rimless case. If that doesn't sound enough, just remember that original Canadian loadings of the .308 with 150-grain bullets were just as warm as the original .308, just running lower pressures.
7.65 is a FINE cartridge.
Just run it through your FL size die, load up with a light load.
On first firing, visually check that the extractor is holding the case to the Bolt face, fire it off.
On NEXT loading it's okay to go full-house. By this time, your cases will be ONE millimetre short; you can fire several times without having to think about trimming.
The two cartridges are almost identical; why NATO didn't just use the 7.65 is down to ONE factor: it ain't American and didn't have several million bucks in US Army development funding into it. As a factory load, it duplicated the.303 British, just in a rimless case. If that doesn't sound enough, just remember that original Canadian loadings of the .308 with 150-grain bullets were just as warm as the original .308, just running lower pressures.
7.65 is a FINE cartridge.
