1949 sks

As that is to show that these are now the parts that are mated to each over after refurbishment.

All matching doesn't mean that it is factory original. In your case it was matched to the parts during refurbishment not from the factory originally.
 
ljones said:
Regardless of if it was a 49 so heavily refurbished that most of the 49 features are removed or a later 1950 sks with a matched 49 cover during refurbishment, it can in no way be considered a true 49 and the associated collector 49 SKS price. It is a franken gun. It is a shooter SKS. It will never be a collector rifle.
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Oh guys will pay up for it. What's a guy supposed to do if he wants a collector 49. I know of one verified unrefurb 49 in existence (must be more out there somewhere). Sometimes you've got to take what you can get.
 
Philthy1 said:
Oh guys will pay up for it. What's a guy supposed to do if he wants a collector 49. I know of one verified unrefurb 49 in existence (must be more out there somewhere). Sometimes you've got to take what you can get.
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To each his own, i tink its a cool gun because of the odd refurb but it hasnt got the spike bayo or the latch with the hole in it, nor the 90 degree gas block or even a birch stock, so i cant see it being of any value as a real 1949, just a cool refurb.
Westrifle Has a few 1949 SKS, for $450, looks like the proper stock/gas block/ cover/ latch and spike bayo, so collectors likely would go for those first!
 
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Philthy1 said:
Oh guys will pay up for it. What's a guy supposed to do if he wants a collector 49. I know of one verified unrefurb 49 in existence (must be more out there somewhere). Sometimes you've got to take what you can get.
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Well if there is a non refurb 49 we would all like to see it. Who verified it? We have heard those claims but so far as I know none have been proven. If it exists its price would be way up there and I would like to see pictures of it and be proven wrong. Until then it is a rumor at best. The 49's were the most used of all the SKS's most being refurbished more than once.
 
Not to be rude, how are you sure of that. If your saying is true, why are there rifles that have non matching numbers. (Post #41)
 
Mr_jonny said:
Not to be rude, how are you sure of that. If your saying is true, why are there rifles that have non matching numbers. (Post #41)
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If you notice the most common part that is mismatched on a SKS is the magazine. The reason being they had to have the magazines pinned before bringing to Canada and as such got mixed up in the process. Second most common part mismatched is the stock which is due to the fact that they sometimes didn't care to restamp the numbers into the stock.

It also depends on who refurbished it, and when if they specifically cared whether or not it was matching. Plenty of reasons why parts end up mismatched, depending on the country and firearm. Sometimes it was the importation practices, sometimes it was the country didn't care, sometimes it was in rebuild they decided it wasn't needed to renumber all these parts and only focused on key ones. Many rifles which now have mismatched bolts is due to the fact when they were shipped to Canada the bolts and rifles came separately and the importers didn't care enough to match them to the rifle (which when your dealing with thousands of rifles can make sense).

People get confused when they use the words 'all matching' as for each type of rifle it has a different meaning. For example with Lee Enfields the bolt could be a replacement renumbered to the rifle, along with the nose cap being a replacement renumbered to match the rifle and it would be all matching. That doesn't mean it is the original parts that it left the factory with, just that is the parts that were matched to the rifle in service. If it has all the original and all matching parts it left the factory with I call that 'factory correct'. The lack of proper standardized terminology and lack of understanding as to what the meaning of those words as applied to different firearms leads to significant confusion (for example most Mausers have every single tiny part serialized, well other rifles like Steyr M95s would have only had the receiver, barrel and stock serialized originally, two completely different standards for the same wording).
 
Mr_jonny said:
Not to be rude, how are you sure of that. If your saying is true, why are there rifles that have non matching numbers. (Post #41)
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Most that were refurbished back in the U.S.S.R. era would have been refurbished to a high standard. The rifles parts would have been all serialed to the rifle which was military standard. Most of the non matching ones we see in Canada is a mis matched magazine. That happens when the magazines are pinned for the Canadian market and are just put back in the rifles without worrying about matching them. There are other factors such as replacement parts being added by a previous owner etc. But by and large either during initial manufacture and refurbishment the serialed parts were matched to the rifle.

Edit: Eaglelord17 beat me to it.
 
Well as much as I would love to keep another rifle in the safe, I think she'll go up on the EE. Let me know if anyone is interested in this unique rifle and watch the EE for the post.
 
rethius said:
Well as much as I would love to keep another rifle in the safe, I think she'll go up on the EE. Let me know if anyone is interested in this unique rifle and watch the EE for the post.
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Well if nothing else, it is a very nice refurb with lam stock and looks to be blued, new barrel etc. Good luck, if you were looking for a good 49, Westrifle still has a few! Cheers!
 
Another "49" SKS popped up on the EE. A 49 receiver cover forced matched to a later rifle. Is/was a vendor somewhere selling these as '49s? That will be the fourth one I've seen now.
 
rethius said:
BBQ paint or blued?
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Rethius, this. Is a good pic to compare with yours, see the gas block is 90 degrees, the bayo is a 4 ridge spike, the stock is hardwood and looks to have the original narrow contour. I can't see the dust cover latch but assume it is the short one with a hole in it! Nice rifle!
 
Wow, there is one on the EE now that says 1949 but only has a dust cover matching I am not sure how honest that is as it is the only visible part that matches a 1949!
Ha Pinky beat me to it, didn't see that post, yea these are fakes and wondering where they came from, if it was just a one off, then maybe a mistake at factory but too many for that!
 
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rethius said:
Who knows. I'm still trying to figure out a fair price to list it at.
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My opinion, it is a mix master refurb with a novelty receiver cover. $200, maybe $250 for the novelty factor. As Bob notes, there would be an air of dishonesty advertising it as a '49. It's still an early gun with, IIRC, a spring loaded firing pin that some see as desirable.
 
rethius said:
BBQ paint or blued?
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Blued.

For me, the most important characteristics of the 1949 are:
(1) 90 degree gas block
(2) Dust cover marked appropriately
(3) Matching numbers, extra points for matching mag!
(4) Slim stock.

My example is not perfect, but acceptable.

Cheers
Jay
 
Jay said:
Blued.

For me, the most important characteristics of the 1949 are:
(1) 90 degree gas block
(2) Dust cover marked appropriately
(3) Matching numbers, extra points for matching mag!
(4) Slim stock.

My example is not perfect, but acceptable.

Cheers
Jay
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Spike bayo?
Mine has all but the stock, sadly, the stock is laminate but still a fairly nice copy, I may look for the proper stock some day, it wont be matching numbers, but I would rather have the correct stock than a force matched laminate!
 
bobdbldr said:
Spike bayo?
Mine has all but the stock, sadly, the stock is laminate but still a fairly nice copy, I may look for the proper stock some day, it wont be matching numbers, but I would rather have the correct stock than a force matched laminate!
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Forgot the spike bayo! Yes, spike bayo is correct on a 1949!

Cheers
Jay
 
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