1955 to 1964 Chinese SKS available?

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I like the longer barrel-lug with screw-on barrel and the milled trigger-guard that the 1955 to 1964 Chinese SKS-types offer. Does anyone know of a place that sells SKSs in that time frame?

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Iloverevolvers said:
I called Marstar and was told that they are of late era and all have pinned barrels. But maybe the person I talked to was not up on the latest.
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http://www.marstar.ca/dynamic/product.jsp?productid=75210

If you click on the above link, it will take you to Marstar's SKS page with all the information about it. If you scroll down, it says "They featured a milled receiver and a screw-in barrel." Don't know what the heck that guy is talking about.
 
"J" man said:
http://www.marstar.ca/dynamic/product.jsp?productid=75210

If you click on the above link, it will take you to Marstar's SKS page with all the information about it. If you scroll down, it says "They featured a milled receiver and a screw-in barrel." Don't know what the heck that guy is talking about.
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Actually, this is the entire quote from the marstar site...

These are the “real thing” they are military production SKS rifles, manufactured in the early 1960s for the Chinese armed forces and placed in long term storage, where they remained until Marstar purchased them a few months ago.
These rifles should not be confused with previous offerings in the market of Chinese civilian versions.
These Chinese military rifles have heavier stocks than their “civilian” counterparts,
they feature machined receivers and chromed lined barrels....

IN SHORT THESE RIFLES ARE: True military models.... They are brand new.... They do feature ALL matching numbers....
They are NOT refurbished.... They are NOT reconditioned.... They are NOT arsenal re-manufactured....

Of course the magazine capacity has been tastefully reduced to five rounds in accordance with Canadian law.
No ugly welds, no unattractive added parts in the magazine.

There seems to be a great deal of confusion regarding the Chinese military SKS rifles that we are offering....
A brief history of these rifles....
Early Chinese manufactured SKS rifles were stamped with a “26" inside a triangle, no Chinese characters are on the receiver.
They featured a milled receiver and a screw-in barrel.
These early production rifles were built in the only Soviet supervised arsenal located at the Jianshe armory.
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It is very carefully worded. The bold section should actually stand alone as not all of Marstar's SKS that they are selling are from Factory 26, and are not all if any are of the initial Sino-Soviet run. Marstars rifles (from many posts on CGN) appear to be from the late 60s. They also have been found to have several different factory stampings indicating they originate in places other than Jianshe.

Marstar is correct in saying that his rifles are military grade which is what I believe is the intent in speaking about Jianshe and the Soviet supervision in production, but the ones Marstar have are a later generation of Chinese rifle and they are not all from Jianshe. I think Jon was simply trying to convey that the Chinese SKS he is selling is military grade, and not the cheaper lower quality commercial grade made under the name Norinco.
 
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When I call a retailer, I hope and assume that what I'm told is accurate. The man seemed quite friendly, forthcoming and sure of himself, if that means anything. After having read the advertisement on the Marstar site, I was surprised to hear that the barrels in this latest batch are not screwed in but pinned, and, obviously I'm not alone, because he answered that question instantly, without hesitation.

I hope that someone who has bought an SKS from the latest Marstar offering would tell us whether the barrel is pinned in place or screwed in.
 
If that's the case, the deal Marstar has on them is not as good as it was. At this point, I would probably go with an original laminated refurbished Russian for the same price.
 
Or one could do research...

From Curtton's Chinese SKS Sticky...

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7. SECONDARY IDENTIFICATION. Production classification.
China has been building SKS for a very long time, too long to have just two classes like we did with the Russian SKS. It was more appropriate that we use three: early, mid and late production classes.

The period for these production classes are rough estimates. I can't expect with that many factories involved to do things in unison, these factories were spread throught out the country and some of them were in remote areas. I am confident with the period for the early production class and that is because it was based on one factory, factory 26.

The quickest way we can determine this is to look at the area where the barrel meets the receiver.

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from the left:
Early production-long barrel lug (1956 - part1965).
mid production- short barrel lug (part1965 - 1980). Typo I believe, should say 1970
late production- no lug, pinned barrel (70s - present).
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Marstars are from the 60s to the 70s I believe. And as such will have screwed in barrels. But not all are from Jianshe as they are stamped from various arsenals. Then again, Marstar's latest may be from the 70s and have pinned barrels. I don't work there so I can't be sure either way.

Marstar SKS purchase threads...

2012/04/19... Factory 625...
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=742087&highlight=marstar

2010/12/15... Factory 625
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=547750&highlight=marstar+sks+factory

And a wicked picture thread for a 625 owned by a forum member...
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459845&highlight=marstar+sks+factory

And of course Claven2's old thread musing that Factory 625 might actually be Factory 256
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477440
 
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First thing there is no such thing as a 1955 SKS56.

From what I've seen of the recent Chi-Com SKS56 offerings is that the 1.5 million numbered ones are screwed in barrels,and the 1.6 million ones are pinned. The pinned barrels tend to be more accurate.
 
Woodbeef said:
First thing there is no such thing as a 1955 SKS56.

From what I've seen of the recent Chi-Com SKS56 offerings is that the 1.5 million numbered ones are screwed in barrels,and the 1.6 million ones are pinned. The pinned barrels tend to be more accurate.
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Factories used different serial numbering systems. The only factory you can use the serial number for dating is the Jianshe Factory. 1.6 million would be a Jianshe rifle made in the 16 year of production, ie 16 plus 56 = 72. Pinned barrels came into existance in the 70s.

If your rifle has a pinned barrel, and it is not from Jianshe, then that would be a clue (among others) to determine what generation of Type 56 you have, but it would be hard if not impossible to narrow it down to a year.
 
I bought a $75 special from Marstar. It has a short barrel lug (not pinned) and a milled trigger block.
I think it's a fantastic deal and I'm very happy with it. shot 300 rounds through it already (2 weeks)
 
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FEnceline. Thanks for the photo of the barrel lugs. It's a great bit of imfo.
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Red Rifle forum... Sticky made by Curtton on the Chinese SKS rifle... Go through that AFTER you've looked at the Russian SKS sticky of his in the same forum. Might as well start the story from the beginning.

The Russian SKS45
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=298930

The Chinese Type 56 Rifle (SKS)
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537183

SKS rifles rock... so many types and variations from so many different places. The same and different all at the same time.
 
So I checked with Curtton and this is correct as pinned and threaded barrels were both produced at the same time....

Early production-long barrel lug (1956 - part1965).
mid production- short barrel lug (part1965 - 1980).
late production- no lug, pinned barrel (70s - present).
 
basicbill said:
I bought a $75 special from Marstar. It has a short barrel lug (not pinned) and a milled trigger block.
I think it's a fantastic deal and I'm very happy with it. shot 300 rounds through it already (2 weeks)
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Same thing here. My Marstar $75 sks has the short barrel lug (not pinned). Quite happy with the purchase.
 
fenceline said:
Factories used different serial numbering systems. The only factory you can use the serial number for dating is the Jianshe Factory. 1.6 million would be a Jianshe rifle made in the 16 year of production, ie 16 plus 56 = 72. Pinned barrels came into existance in the 70s.

If your rifle has a pinned barrel, and it is not from Jianshe, then that would be a clue (among others) to determine what generation of Type 56 you have, but it would be hard if not impossible to narrow it down to a year.
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Not quite a /26\ with a serial number in the 1.6 million range would be a 1957, to be a 1972 manufacture would be a 16 million serial number. These new SKS56 are from Factories /306\,/625\,/626\not /26\
 
I picked up 2 sks from marstar, one a factory 316 and one with no factory mark. both have threaded barrels, the 316 has a stamped trigger guard while the no factory number has machined. Both shoot beautifully and better than my Tula refurb.
 
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