1958 M70 Alaskan .375 H&H Mag Value...

I know when I bought my 338 Win Mag (which wasn't on the EE) the same seller sold a great 375 H&H on the EE for $2200. This was about a year and a half ago I think.
 
I don't believe that all pre-64's in .375 H&H were Alaskans. I just did a quick search and found one other Alaskan in .375 H&H - "as new", 98% condition, DOM is 1960. Price was $3450 and it was sold.
 
No not all pre-64 375 H&H rifles were Alaskans. When they brought out the Alaskan designation for the 338 Win Mag in 1958 or 59 it was extended to include the 375 H&H chambered rifles as well and it upped the price of a 375 H&H by something like $10 because it was now called an Alaskan and was special. In reality it's the same rifle as prior to 58/59 when it didn't have the Alaskan designation.
 
And that is part of the issue when comparing other pre-64's - you have to compare apples to apples. If you WANT a pre-64 Alaskan then a Standard Grade will just not do. Sure, you can save $1000, but to what end? I have done that in the past and always ended up thinking "in the big scheme of things it would have only been a little more to get exactly what I wanted....why didn't I?"

If you have the $, and can afford it, then why not treat yourself? Sometimes it is nice to spoil yourself.
 
What I was saying is that an Alaskan is the exact same rifle as the standard grade, there is no difference, it was just a name they attached to 338s and 375s from 58 onwards as a marketing ploy. Super Grades are different, they're fancier and rarer. Alaskan is just a name.
 
MattW said:
No not all pre-64 375 H&H rifles were Alaskans. When they brought out the Alaskan designation for the 338 Win Mag in 1958 or 59 it was extended to include the 375 H&H chambered rifles as well and it upped the price of a 375 H&H by something like $10 because it was now called an Alaskan and was special. In reality it's the same rifle as prior to 58/59 when it didn't have the Alaskan designation.
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Matt you got it right. . The change to Alaskan began earlier but by 1960 it was the Alaskan which was a name change and price increase. . The year 1960 brought on some more changes at Winchester. . It was the last year for the standard rifle, in 375 H&H, and also the last year for the low combed stock and in 1960, no more Supergrades except for the African 458. .

Something else; the 264 mag Westerner, in feathweight, was the only featherweight that came standard from the factory with a recoil pad.

By the way, nice looking 375 H&H you have.
 
Rod said:
Matt you got it right. . The change to Alaskan began earlier but by 1960 it was the Alaskan which was a name change and price increase. . The year 1960 brought on some more changes at Winchester. . It was the last year for the standard rifle, in 375 H&H, and also the last year for the low combed stock and in 1960, no more Supergrades except for the African 458. .

Something else; the 264 mag Westerner, in feathweight, was the only featherweight that came standard from the factory with a recoil pad.

By the way, nice looking 375 H&H you have.
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Thanks Rod, it's been a good rifle. I'm glad you could correct me on the finer points, I'm going by memory, I haven't been able to find my copy of The Riflemans Rifle or The Model 12 Book since I moved.
 
MattW said:
I would say that if you were patient you could find the same rifle but a very good shooter (not perfect maybe a couple little marks) for about half that much and if the idea is to shoot it and hunt it then what difference would it make if the gun had a couple little marks on it when you got it? If that rifle is perfect with only 8 shots through it I'd say the asking price isn't far off but if the idea is to shoot it and hunt it, it's going to drop in value when you do these things. If the price and loss of value don't bother you and you just want to enjoy the gun (and I understand this thinking completely) then go for it. I know I love my pre-64 375 H&H and I hunt it every time I draw grizzly and often for moose and black bear too.
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My thinking exactly Matt. This is the reason I settlrd on a brand new FN/Winchester Alaskan .338 instead of a mint Pre-64 as I wanted to hunt with it. That being said thought, if money were no object I'd love an original also. I suggest you look up here in Canada also.
 
I remember a few years ago I saw a Holland and Holland built 375 on a Mauser action for $3500 at the Calgary gunshow. I should have bought the damned thing. I kick myself in the ass every time I think of it. I love a Pre-64 M70 but I think that one's pricier than it should be.
 
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