1st Pistol P320 Vs G17

By all means, shoot both before buying. Try a M&P as well.
The 320RX is very attractive, if you want an optic.
I have found 320 triggers to be on the heavy side.
 
Cafard said:
Looking to buy my first pistol, the two that are on top of the list are the P320 Nitron full size and the Glock G17 5th. Both in 9mm, i know the 320 distribution have been held so id wait for the updated version to come out and the Glock 5th gen isn’t out yet. Thatd give me time to choose. Wich one would you buy and why? Pro/cons?

Target shooting and getting familiar with pistols.
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Wow, those are some pretty boring choices OP. I’m guessing practicality is in there too, huh?
If ‘target shooting and getting familiar’ with Pistols is your mandate, then a good quality .22 is really what your after.
Kinda like your high school sweetheart - safe and fun and you’ll always have fond memories of her.

If however finger banging a short barreled boom-stick and have fun doing it is more your speed look at it this way:

View a first pistol like you would a chick you want to date.

Do you want to marry her, spend the rest of your days with her, have children, settle down and grow old and retire together?
Or are you wanting to experiment, have some fun, no commitment and have some fun freaky ### while having a good time?

If it’s the former, buy a Glock. She’ll always work for you, stay loyal and willingly go bang. She’s the girl next door, so her looks aren’t for everyone, but she still has style - unlike the homeless crackhead, the hipoint and that crazy b!tch down the road (Ruger).
You can upgrade a Glock to your hearts content if certain features are not quite to your liking, but much like plastic surgery, you are bound to pay a pretty penny for the real expensive stuff, and then it becomes a risk of becoming a money pit.
It’s possible to spend a pile on upgrading a Glock, and still end up divorcing it.

If it’s the later, shelve the Glock idea. At least temporarily. You can always go back to her once you’ve crammed your fingers in a bunch of other trigger guards.

P320? She’s more marrying material, so scrap the plans with her too.

Get something with some flash and has been dolled up already. CZ shadow (original or her younger sister), PPQ Match, or a G34.
 
I would choose the Sig 320 for the simple fact its not a Glock. Glocks are either you like them or hate em type guns. I hate them. The grip angle does nothing for me.

Where as the Sig is a good around gun. My only concern about them and it just might be a small isssue about mine is the controls and takedown lever are to stiff. Other then that I like it alot.
 
beltfed said:
Wow, those are some pretty boring choices OP. I’m guessing practicality is in there too, huh?
If ‘target shooting and getting familiar’ with Pistols is your mandate, then a good quality .22 is really what your after.
Kinda like your high school sweetheart - safe and fun and you’ll always have fond memories of her.

If however finger banging a short barreled boom-stick and have fun doing it is more your speed look at it this way:

View a first pistol like you would a chick you want to date.

Do you want to marry her, spend the rest of your days with her, have children, settle down and grow old and retire together?
Or are you wanting to experiment, have some fun, no commitment and have some fun freaky ### while having a good time?

If it’s the former, buy a Glock. She’ll always work for you, stay loyal and willingly go bang. She’s the girl next door, so her looks aren’t for everyone, but she still has style - unlike the homeless crackhead, the hipoint and that crazy b!tch down the road (Ruger).
You can upgrade a Glock to your hearts content if certain features are not quite to your liking, but much like plastic surgery, you are bound to pay a pretty penny for the real expensive stuff, and then it becomes a risk of becoming a money pit.
It’s possible to spend a pile on upgrading a Glock, and still end up divorcing it.

If it’s the later, shelve the Glock idea. At least temporarily. You can always go back to her once you’ve crammed your fingers in a bunch of other trigger guards.

P320? She’s more marrying material, so scrap the plans with her too.

Get something with some flash and has been dolled up already. CZ shadow (original or her younger sister), PPQ Match, or a G34.
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Haha i laughed thanks for the words. I am kinda looking for a long term relationship at this point in my life tho, i did spend a lot of money on hunting rifles the last years and i can say im good for a while i just want 1 pistol who do it all. If the updated version of the 320 would be available right now i would buy it live, i still have to wait on my papers for about 1 month and then ill see what is up for grab.
 
To stir the pot a bit.....

If it is your first pistol then what about going with an np 22 or nz85b ?? They are great to learn on, both shoot 9mm and you won't lose your shirt if you decide to move up to something more expensive in the future. Often on sale at less than 4bills and frequently seen on ee for less when guys move up.

You can always find deals on used polymers too. There is no need to hurry on it either. Get to a store or local club and ask to handle different makes and models to see what fits you and gives you the fun factor at a reasonable price.

They all go bang!
 
I have shot both. Can't comment on any upcoming models obviously.

First the Glock: The grip angle is no big deal after a few mags you get used to it. The look well lets say its a matter of personal choice. The standard trigger sucks. No other way to put it. In my view it is the worst standard trigger on any handgun I have used, and that includes my TT33 which is saying something. You can upgrade the trigger but why should you have to. Rock solid reliable, accurate once you have mastered the trigger.

Sig 320: Grip angle is more standard, a little on the upright side. Longer barrel than the Glock with more weight forward, the good side is you get less muzzle flip. Trigger is much better than the Glock by a mile. In my view the best trigger of striker pistols I have tried but some others are close, the Walthers for example. Accurate and reliable in the shooting I have done but then I haven't done a torture test. Better built than the Glocks I have seen. This doesn't affect function but is an issue if you care about that sort of thing.

Overall I prefer the Sig but both are good solid guns. The only real downside to the Glock is the lousy trigger. You can get used to any trigger but why should you have to.
 
Glock sights blow, and glock has the aesthetics of a Canadain tire staple gun. They are ultra reliable though, And as simple as you can get. Have you considered the hk Sfp9? It has a very customizable grip with the side scales and the back-strap, and they have a nicer trigger than the glock. They are wicked accurate too
 
Just handled some pistols at the local dealer and im def not going with the G17, everytime i got in a shooting position the gun naturally point way too high. Grip angle wont work and anyway the gun feel like a tv remote in my hand. Really liked the p320 but a smart man would wait for the security updated version... right?

P226 i did not hate but its more money.
 
Just called Sig and the updated version of the p320 are already shipping out in the US so it is just a matter of time until the 2.0 hit the Canadian markets i guess.
 
P226 i did not hate but its more money.
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If you liked the ergonomics of P226, then Norc NP22 might be worth a shot. Keep an eye on EE, I picked up a brand new one for $300 shipped a while ago. Give it a deep clean, replace stock mainspring with 19 lbs Wolff, enjoy.
 
Cafard said:
Just handled some pistols at the local dealer and im def not going with the G17, everytime i got in a shooting position the gun naturally point way too high. Grip angle wont work and anyway the gun feel like a tv remote in my hand..
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The grip angle thing does not take too long to adapt to, as does the feel. I hated the first Glock I held and dry fired...until I shot it.
 
I am not one to knock any make but glocks to me just seem kinda ugly.....then again there are a ton of em out there and fans really love em. I cant get past the triggers though. The one striker fired pistol i do have is similar to the m and p...girsan mc28sa....very nice da/sa trigger and not a bank breaker.
 
My 2 cents is try both. Just shot the 320 today and loved it. But thats me. Try both back to back and buy the one you like. Normally ranges will have them as rentals.
 
TT1900 said:
The drop “issue” isn’t an issue. Don’t drop your gun.

The trigger isn’t nearly as terrible as you make it out to be. P320 and G17 both have crap triggers in the big picture. Six of one, half-dozen of the other.

OP, I’m waiting for the Gen5 G17 and specifically the one with the Ameriglo sights. Those sights fix my biggest gripe with the platform. Though I find the P320 more comfortable in hand, the Glock points better for me. I’m also very happy the finger grooves are gone.
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Can you say with certainty that you will never drop your gun? You are either psychic or shoot only from a bench. Regardless, any pistol should be drop safe and SIG made bold claims about "ten years in development" and claimed it was "drop safe". The truth is they weren't, and they hid that fact from the public until someone blew the whistle. Then SIG back peddled claiming they didn't know about the problem only to change their tune a couple days later saying they did know about the problem and that they miraculously had a fix for it. SIG f**ked the public with an unsafe product. When they got caught they offered a voluntary "upgrade". Not sure how making a firearm safe to use is an "upgrade" I kind of thought that was standard practice when selling firearms. Oh and there isn't ten years of development in the 320. It is nothing more than a SIG 250 with a striker mechanism rather than a hammer.

SIG rushed to market with a striker fired gun in hopes of winning the FBI trials and the US army trials. The FBI concluded that the 320 is a bag of sh*t. The FBI testing to regarded as the most stringent and thorough testing ever conceived for firearms selection. SIG under bid Glock(by $100 million) for the US army contract which was abruptly halted before all testing was complete. SIG played cheap as an attempt to save their name and reputation. Lots goobers out there will buy a 320 simply because it is the "issued" pistol for the US Army. SIG's rush to offer a striker fired gun also brings into question their own beliefs regarding hammer fired guns. If SIG truly believed in their 22X line and design then why offer a striker fired gun??

grinder08 said:
I have shot both. Can't comment on any upcoming models obviously.

First the Glock: The grip angle is no big deal after a few mags you get used to it. The look well lets say its a matter of personal choice. The standard trigger sucks. No other way to put it. In my view it is the worst standard trigger on any handgun I have used, and that includes my TT33 which is saying something. You can upgrade the trigger but why should you have to. Rock solid reliable, accurate once you have mastered the trigger.
The grip angle is ergonomic and mimics that of a revolver which oddly no one complains about. The trigger is more than acceptable.
Where people fail is in applying proper trigger control. There is a fair bit of slack on the Glock trigger which you must take up before breaking the shot. The next step is to work the reset, as in only allow the trigger to return forward until you feel and hear the click of the trigger resetting. Running the trigger all the way back and then all the way forward will result in poor shot placement wit any gun. Don't forget that the SIG is a single action striker fired whereas the Glock is a double action.
Sig 320: Grip angle is more standard, a little on the upright side. Longer barrel than the Glock with more weight forward, the good side is you get less muzzle flip. Trigger is much better than the Glock by a mile. In my view the best trigger of striker pistols I have tried but some others are close, the Walthers for example. Accurate and reliable in the shooting I have done but then I haven't done a torture test. Better built than the Glocks I have seen. This doesn't affect function but is an issue if you care about that sort of thing.
The grip angle on a 320 is not "standard". It closely mimics a 1911 which is not ergonomic but is familiar to many. The increased length and weight is minimal. Muzzle control is a product of the shooter. The trigger has a ton of slack, a very soft wall and a horrible non tactile reset. Not sure how you can say they're better built without supporting evidence.
Overall I prefer the Sig but both are good solid guns. The only real downside to the Glock is the lousy trigger. You can get used to any trigger but why should you have to.
You aren't getting used to the trigger, you're applying sound fundamentals of trigger control.. There's a difference.
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nickvaselino said:
Glock sights blow, and glock has the aesthetics of a Canadain tire staple gun. They are ultra reliable though, And as simple as you can get. Have you considered the hk Sfp9? It has a very customizable grip with the side scales and the back-strap, and they have a nicer trigger than the glock. They are wicked accurate too
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Most people change the sights and it is why Glock doesn't invest in serious sights on their pistols. Asesthetics have NOTHING to do with performance... If performance is something you're concerned about. The Hk like the SIG is also a single action striker fired gun. The Glock is double action. Accuracy is a function of the shooter, not the gun.
 
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