2 "3/4 VS 3" shells

#4 is a bit large for most upland applications, #6 or #71/2 are commonly used for grouse. I would use #4 for varying hares or crows. However, #4 will work, assuming you are capable of hitting the target.
Cant use #4 on skeet or trap ranges....
 
cosmic said:
#4 is a bit large for most upland applications, #6 or #71/2 are commonly used for grouse. I would use #4 for varying hares or crows. However, #4 will work, assuming you are capable of hitting the target.
Cant use #4 on skeet or trap ranges....
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Agree. The only thing I see some guys use 4 lead for today is also the odd rabbit hunter
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3macs1 said:
It makes a big difference what part of the country one hunts in and the type of hunting. Out west waterfowl hunting from blinds from my experience out there I think I could use a good stick and limit out where here over the ocean many times and the usual long pass shots one could use the 10ga and still be under gunned
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I would agree with this. I grew up in New Brunswick and it was my experience there too.

Now I live in Ontario and my main waterfowl prey is the Canada Goose. The first week or 2 of the season, I could kill them with a .410, I think, as they finish and are generally stupid as sh!t.

As the season progresses, it's much harder to get birds to decoy and we run 3.5" steel BB shot. When it was cheaper, I used Hevi-Metal, but at the round count we're at, I can't justify the expense anymore.

Wit the larger shot diameter, I need to 3.5" to crunch as effectively as when we were allowed lead back in the day. The steel just doesn't hit as hard at longer ranges and the added pattern density from the extra pellets makes it more likely to land an effective blow.

I would not shoot much 3.5" through a pump, by the way. I run it in a Beretta Xtrema2 with a kick-off dampening system. Makes all the difference in the world, provided you want to spend close to $2K for a waterfowl shotgun...
 
Claven2 said:
I would agree with this. I grew up in New Brunswick and it was my experience there too.

Now I live in Ontario and my main waterfowl prey is the Canada Goose. The first week or 2 of the season, I could kill them with a .410, I think, as they finish and are generally stupid as sh!t.

As the season progresses, it's much harder to get birds to decoy and we run 3.5" steel BB shot. When it was cheaper, I used Hevi-Metal, but at the round count we're at, I can't justify the expense anymore.

Wit the larger shot diameter, I need to 3.5" to crunch as effectively as when we were allowed lead back in the day. The steel just doesn't hit as hard at longer ranges and the added pattern density from the extra pellets makes it more likely to land an effective blow.

I would not shoot much 3.5" through a pump, by the way. I run it in a Beretta Xtrema2 with a kick-off dampening system. Makes all the difference in the world, provided you want to spend close to $2K for a waterfowl shotgun...
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I agree with this as I generally have had the experience. I am shooting a Mossberg 935, and after installing a limbsaver recoil pad, i find the the recoil of a 3.5" shell negligible.
 
ya - I've used mostly 2 3/4" for a long time... but the past couple of years I switched to 3" for late season ducks & geese. I think I'll switch back. I'll keep a few rounds for turkey hunting but I just don't think I need the 3" . I've switched to my 28 gauge for most early season ducks. Bigger is not always better
 
badgreenbird said:
ya - I've used mostly 2 3/4" for a long time... but the past couple of years I switched to 3" for late season ducks & geese. I think I'll switch back. I'll keep a few rounds for turkey hunting but I just don't think I need the 3" . I've switched to my 28 gauge for most early season ducks. Bigger is not always better
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Just wondering where you are buying steel shot shells in the sizes for hunting ducks in 28 gauge.
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total disaster said:
I picked up some steel #6 in 28 ga other day. For 12 bucks a box and AAHS hulls why not (will be setting up to reload soon)
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I suggest you take a real close look at those hulls since it would be something new for AAHS to be used in Xpert offerings which I assume these are
Normally they have a red AA looking hull marked "Steel Shot" and those are used in all of the winchester steel Game & Target loads I have seen so far.The color is where it stops and the plastic it a totally different composition and doesn't hold up like a AAHS

This hull has a very distinct flat tan basewad with a slight raised lip around the edge and slightly higher basewad. Very similar to the typical econo hull basewad but a bit flatter. The brass is also not brass like a AAHS but brass plated steel
In fact many are now being stamped AANR with NR meaning non reloadable

Also where does one get good wads for reloading steel shot in 28ga. I still cannot find any and been looking a while. The tps they say are for all non tox from ballastic products are crap from my experiences trying them in 28ga

12 bucks a box is a good price however in our neck of the woods
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3macs1 said:
Thanks Cat. That makes sense
Cheers
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Yup - sorry for the delayed reply. I did buy a case of the aforementioned Winchester #6 steel, and do use those on teal (or the first barrel on really close decoying birds) but for serious 28 gauge waterfowling I use the handloads that Cat made up for me. They are simply AWESOME!
 
badgreenbird said:
Yup - sorry for the delayed reply. I did buy a case of the aforementioned Winchester #6 steel, and do use those on teal (or the first barrel on really close decoying birds) but for serious 28 gauge waterfowling I use the handloads that Cat made up for me. They are simply AWESOME!
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Thanks. Yes sir bismuth is good stuff for killing or was. I wonder when we are going to see the new and improved bismuth as they call it in canada that came out last fall
I have not ran into any so far
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Anyone have preference between Winchester or Remington? Is one brand superior then the other when comparing shells?
 
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