2 questions about Buying 500- fps air pistol!

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1.could I shoot the air pistol(under 500 fps ) in my dooryard or house?
2.if an old grandma (the neighbor)tells the police that I'm holding a "pistol" in my dooryard,what's going on? big trouble for me ?
THANKS!
 
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It may be pefctly Legal. BUT if Reported, the Police WILL attend

.. It would be "reported" as a Firearms related activity, and the Police would respond accordingly. It matters not what the M/V is. That's reality. .....The M/V may be a an issue if it were to come to Charges being laid. And that could, potentially be either Municipal or Criminal Code. Technicalities become irrelevant when you're looking down the barrel of a Pistol held by a police Officer responding to a call, that until Investigated, WILL be treated, as Dangerous Call, involving Firearms. ..... It may be unfair, it may be perceived as an Injustice, and that's unfortunate. ...... If you do elect to use your Air Pistol in the Backyard, I would suggest, that first, you check the Legality or otherwise.And get to know your immediate neighbors, both sides, and the back, so at least they'll be inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt. ..... David K
 
mlehtovaara said:
...Also check discharge bylaws in your city.

Many cities have bylaws that do not allow discharge of pellet guns, bow and arrows, etc.
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Yup;

It's always best to maintain a low profile no matter where you are. Don't advertise to the world what you are doing all it will do is bring you headaches. Even in a rural setting where I am at, there are a lot of folks who have different opinions, and fair enough. Be polite and respectful.

Also play it very careful, be able to clearly and quickly demonstrate to any RCMP that you HAVE assessed for hazards and checked your backstops to ensure safety....and simply don't do it if you can't guarantee your neighbors' safety.

If you can "check the boxes" calmy, coolly and effeciently then your bases are covered. If you cannot, expect trouble.

Happy shootin'
 
In SW Ont. most citys and small towns don't allow the discharge of any airguns or bows within city limits and that includes airsoft. Police will have no choice but to charge you if someone complains. Given todays paranoia regarding "guns" its best to be very discrete in your yard. I myself set up inside my garden shed and shoot at an almost silent duct seal target box, I've had people talking 30ft away and they didn't seem to notice.
 
isnt 500 fps or less legal? Im not sure but i thought it was anything higher than 500 fps that was needing a license.
 
Must not exceed 500 fps (152.4 m/s): s.84(3)(d) of the Criminal Code.

But sitting on the line (500 fps) would be practically impossible, given the inevitable variation in muzzle velocity. If you ever go over, which you would at some point given changes in temperature, atmospheric pressure etc etc etc, you have a restricted (if it's a pistol) firearm by definition. Hence the "495 fps max" in advertised HP pellet pistols. You need to have a buffer in there...
 
i have never heard of an air gun being classed as restricted. only non res. (thus still registered). at the time
 
Air pistols shooting over 500fps AND 4.2FPE are restricted firearms.

From the RCMP Airguns Fact Sheet...

1. Air guns that are firearms for purposes of both the Firearms Act and the Criminal Code.

These are air guns with both a high muzzle velocity (greater than 152.4 meters or 500 feet per second) and a high muzzle energy (greater than 5.7 joules or 4.2 foot-pounds). The “muzzle velocity” is the speed of a projectile at the instant it leaves the muzzle of a gun, normally expressed in metres per second or feet per second. The “muzzle energy” is the energy of a projectile at the instant it leaves the muzzle of a gun, expressed in joules or foot-pounds. Air guns need to meet both standards to be classified as firearms for purposes of the Firearms Act.

These high-powered air guns are subject to the same licence and registration requirements as a conventional firearm.

You are also required to store, transport, display and handle them safely in accordance with the regulations supporting the Firearms Act.

Usually, the manufacturer’s specifications are used to determine what muzzle velocity and muzzle energy an air gun was designed to have. This information may be available in the user’s manual or on the manufacturer’s web site. If the information is not available, individuals can call 1 800 731-4000 and ask to speak to a firearms technician to find out if the air gun is classified as a firearm for purposes of the Firearms Act.

High-powered air rifles are classified as non-restricted firearms. High-powered air pistols are classified as restricted if their barrel is longer than 105 mm or prohibited if their barrel length is 105 mm or less.
 
idontknowjack said:
Air pistols shooting over 500fps AND 4.2FPE are restricted firearms.

From the RCMP Airguns Fact Sheet...

1. Air guns that are firearms for purposes of both the Firearms Act and the Criminal Code.

These are air guns with both a high muzzle velocity (greater than 152.4 meters or 500 feet per second) and a high muzzle energy (greater than 5.7 joules or 4.2 foot-pounds). The “muzzle velocity” is the speed of a projectile at the instant it leaves the muzzle of a gun, normally expressed in metres per second or feet per second. The “muzzle energy” is the energy of a projectile at the instant it leaves the muzzle of a gun, expressed in joules or foot-pounds. Air guns need to meet both standards to be classified as firearms for purposes of the Firearms Act.

These high-powered air guns are subject to the same licence and registration requirements as a conventional firearm.

You are also required to store, transport, display and handle them safely in accordance with the regulations supporting the Firearms Act.

Usually, the manufacturer’s specifications are used to determine what muzzle velocity and muzzle energy an air gun was designed to have. This information may be available in the user’s manual or on the manufacturer’s web site. If the information is not available, individuals can call 1 800 731-4000 and ask to speak to a firearms technician to find out if the air gun is classified as a firearm for purposes of the Firearms Act.

High-powered air rifles are classified as non-restricted firearms. High-powered air pistols are classified as restricted if their barrel is longer than 105 mm or prohibited if their barrel length is 105 mm or less.
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I wonder if both these conditions have to be met for it to be considered a firearm, or just one would suffice . Legal interpretation , assuming that is exactly how the law is written , would suggest that both conditions have to be met for this to apply but who's willing to find out...........
 
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Still muzzle energy will not be achieved with .177 pellets even above the 500fps mark, yet they do require a PAL to be purchased.......how is that ? I would hate for someone to be charged just bcs. it meets one of the requirements set out in the law. Anyone has any insight on how law enforcement actually deals with these cases ?
 
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