Hey all, i currently have a stoeger uplander supreme with 20 and 28 gauge barrels. I've shot grouse a few times with the 28 gauge barrels, however i find myself using the 20 gauge barrels as my go to for grouse, both while solely targeting grouse and shooting grouse while deer hunting, as well as using it almost exclusively for duck hunts and combo duck/goose hunts. I thoroughly enjoy shooting the 20 gauge and very rarely find myself feeling under gunned when hunting with friends shooting 12's. Now all this being said, although i like shooting the stoeger i find myself wanting a sxs thats a little nicer, not sure where i fall on one or two triggers however I'm leaning toward two triggers, and would prefer to have ejectors instead of extractors. Ive looked at the cz bobwhite however i haven't actually handled one but they seem to have great reviews and look to be a decently nice gun for under $1000, however they do not have ejectors. I am wondering if there is something else out there that might fit the bill for a reasonable price. This will be a gun that will likely get the nod as my go to bird gun for everything other shooting big honkers. Not really worried about real nice wood as although i take care of my firearms, this one will get hunted with lots. If you have and ideas i would greatly appreciate your insight.
20 gauge double, attn catnthehat
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I am not aware right off the top of my head of a modern SXS with ejectors for under $1,000 , they may be out there however.
The older Remingtons 1894's had ejectors and auto safeties as well, but they were Damascus barrelled shotguns, and are fine if you hand load but I would not shoot modern stuff in them.
I have never really worried too much about using extractors myself, but I know many shooters who prefer ejectors on their shotguns.
As far as the Bobwhite goes, they are a great gun, have used one in 20 and my main bird gun for a while was a 28 mini Bobwhite- I think Kamlooky now has it in fact.
Silverado has a 20 for sale at a decent price , as well.
Is $1,000 your ceiling?
Hoytcannon mentioned a Citori, but if I read your post correctly you are looking for a SXS gun?
If an O/U will work, there are lots out there for a decent buck- I just sold one in fact!!
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The older Remingtons 1894's had ejectors and auto safeties as well, but they were Damascus barrelled shotguns, and are fine if you hand load but I would not shoot modern stuff in them.
I have never really worried too much about using extractors myself, but I know many shooters who prefer ejectors on their shotguns.
As far as the Bobwhite goes, they are a great gun, have used one in 20 and my main bird gun for a while was a 28 mini Bobwhite- I think Kamlooky now has it in fact.
Silverado has a 20 for sale at a decent price , as well.
Is $1,000 your ceiling?
Hoytcannon mentioned a Citori, but if I read your post correctly you are looking for a SXS gun?
If an O/U will work, there are lots out there for a decent buck- I just sold one in fact!!
Cat
My son has a 20 gauge Bobwhite... he initially had problems with it punching primers and the pins were getting stuck in the primer and locking the gun in the closed position... it went in to Dlask for repairs twice... but it is now fully functional and he is happy with the feel and function... I made a 60 yard shot on a pheasant with it this fall and borrowed it for a late season grouse hunt one afternoon... the gun in the second picture is a Tobin sidelock 12 gauge.
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Love the second pic!
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BigUglyMan
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He said he was looking for a SxS. Barrels on the Citori are on the wrong way. But if he can get over his orientation problem then a Citori would do nicely.
I haven't really set a budget as of yet, usually i see whats out there and what i want then go from there, so no $1000 isn't my ceiling. As far as sxs vs o/u goes, i originally bought the stoeger on a whim and only because i got a great deal on it. Since then i have come to enjoy shooting a sxs, the only experience i have with o/u's is shooting a couple shots here and there with a couple of my dads field grade brownings, and a silver pigeon beretta, however they have all been 12 gauge. So i would consider an o/u, i just don't have any real experience with one. The only reason that i had mentioned the $1000 is that i thought the bobwhite seemed like a pretty good gun for the money, or decent bang for your buck if you will.
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gunsaholic
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You will need to decide which you prefer. Other than having 2 barrels, an over/under and SxS are 2 different animals. I have a number of SxS's and used to have a number of over/unders. I never found an over/under yet that really suited me so they have all gone down the road except for a 28 gauge. And I've been thinking of moving it.
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I've shot O/U since I started hunting and finally settled on a 28 Redhead. I would love to get ahold of a nice 20 or 28 SxS though. They just seem to be the ultimate "Gentleman's" upland gun.
Seeing that Tobin sparks my old brain to remember when I first started hunting. My Dad let me use his Tobin. It was well used, and had a handmade fore-end, metal parts and all. I still have the shotgun and will have to take it out and smoke some clays with it. After my Dad passed on, it was my "chicken gun" for many years.
Those Bobwhites are decent guns for under $1000. They handle well and function perfectly for upland use. I owned one in 20 and liked it, but couldn't get past the very plain (similar to cardboard) wood they used on it and the checkering was filled with varathane finish. I sold it and looked for a used SKB M100 20ga IC/M which I later found and will never sell.
Also, I wouldn't pass on a shotgun because it lacked auto-ejectors. Extractors work fine in the upland field as there is seldom time for a second round of shots on game. If you don't get it in two, you're not getting it. I've owned guns with ejectors and used to cover the chambers to prevent the empties from flying so I didn't have to pick them up. I don't like leaving empty hulls lying around in the field. Auto ejectors work fine for trap and skeet, but you can live very well without them for upland.
Double triggers are a good thing to look for as it gives the shooter instant choice of chokes w/o having to fiddle with little buttons. Once you get used to it, you won't want to go back to a single trigger.
I'll throw this out here even though it might not be relevant due to the cost being significantly higher then $1000 for most of us but AYA makes a gorgeous box lock with Ejectors and dual triggers. The price is higher and the wood is nice. They are great guns and have a gun builder function on their website. I think the cheapest would be around the $2500 mark but it would be something you can be proud of. Nothing against the cz or yildz guns either
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I'm not sure how far it was , but there were more than a few jaws dropping after I made a crossing shot on a chukker that had the afterburners on and went down with a shot from my CZ mini Bobwhite!
It was a very long shot however and I remembering swing real wide on it.
Manitoban, Donnybear, and a few others were in attendance.:>)
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It was a very long shot however and I remembering swing real wide on it.
Manitoban, Donnybear, and a few others were in attendance.:>)
Cat
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